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Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by read_if_gay_ »

polishdude20 wrote: post #29
luckylion wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. The servers in the data center are rented to specific clients. If these clients commit crimes and the DC operator knows about it but chooses not to shut down the offenders, that's their business feature.

I'm considering the previous posters comment on how the users who post illegal materials should be responsible, not the platform. But yeah that makes sense. In this case it would be as if the city knew about the child pornography on the street but decided not to do anything about it.

But also the city is required to check all the light poles for CP constantly.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by gaucheph »

Reason077 wrote: post #4

> "Armin received a bottle of jenever in thanks. „But the customs made me throw it away before the return flight. I couldn’t even take a sip.”" It would have been airport security that made him throw it away, not customs. At that time, the UK was part of the customs union, so there were no customs on a flight between the Netherlands and UK.

what's the significance of this distinction?

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by mindslight »

dragonwriter wrote: post #53
aww_dang wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many of the robo-DMCA-claim firms simply search for the string of a movie title. If the page in question is determined by their poorly written software to include the content, a DMCA takedown request is spammed. No human confirmation is involved. One wonders who the abusers and spammers are in this situation. Of course some will claim that provisions exist for damages to be claimed in the event of false takedowns, bu…

> Of course some will claim that provisions exist for damages to be claimed in the event of false takedowns If the falsity is only in regard to the not-under-perjury parts of a takedown notice (like, say, that there is infringing content!), then you maybe, in some circumstances, have a tortious interference claim, but, generally, you are screwed. If you are lucky , your host has and follows a counternotice process an…

Yes the DMCA is a terrible law that isn't based on justice, but rather was one of the first laws bought by copyright holders so they could attack the nascent Internet. This was apparent at the time, and the community tried to fight it. But as with most ratcheting authoritarianism, we lost and it's just how things are now. I feel like this has been forgotten, based on how people talk about the claim-counterclaim process expecting it to be equitable.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by ummonk »

orhmeh09 wrote: post #65
aaomidi wrote: post #44

50% of known CP is hosted in Netherlands. A country smaller than New York state.

Also a hotspot for drugs trafficking, yet with a pristine official record of corruption, ranking as one of the ten least corrupt countries in the world. These seem incongruous, somehow.

Sounds like a ranking as meaningful as pandemic preparedness. https://www.statista.com/chart/20629/ability-to-respond-to-a...

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by maccard »

azeirah wrote: post #68
PartiallyTyped wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

personal story: I remember uploading a BF3 montage on YouTube some eons ago when it was all the rage, no copyrighted music or anything. I received a DMCA claim by some spanish tv/broadcasting company or something along those lines, totally unrelated to my content. --- The fact that DMCA claims can be issued with no human interaction and no repurcussions is beyond me. If anything, the hosting company should at least i…

Filing a false DMCA claim is perjury. > A DMCA claim (or takedown) is when a copyright holder notifies a service provider that they have infringing material on their site/service. It is also known as a “Notification of Infringement”. For example, Twitch has these guidelines for submitting DMCA claims. Essentially it boils down to send in writing who you are, who is infringing your rights, how they’re doing it, and sw…

Has that ever been enforced, in any shape or form?

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by De_Delph »

korijn wrote: post #34
the-dude wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sources please.

It was on the national news couple days ago, too many to list but here's one article: https://nos.nl/l/2373565 I don't know about death threats though. But I for sure would feel intimidated as hell.

This Nadia Bouras person has cheering on red paint 'attacks' on an elected right wing politician's home address front door a while ago. Something something black kettle.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

fallingknife wrote: post #6

> When the hoster receives an official request from the US to remove copyrighted materials – a DMCA takedown notice – the men do nothing about it, says a person who saw it happen. „DMCAs are just tossed in the wastepaper basket.” Subletters even advertise this ‘service’. „DMCA ignored” reads one advertisement offering space in the „state of the art Ecatel DataCenter, located in Amsterdam”. The Dutch hosting company d…

>Dutch law states that a hosting company cannot be prosecuted for the actions of those who hire its servers. It is impossible for a hosting company to know the content of every byte on those servers. But hosting companies are required to take action if they are informed of the presence of illegal content. The question is how quickly and how actively they do so.

Chucking a DMCA in the trash sounds like it's against Dutch law

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by kome »

orhmeh09 wrote: post #65
aaomidi wrote: post #44

50% of known CP is hosted in Netherlands. A country smaller than New York state.

Also a hotspot for drugs trafficking, yet with a pristine official record of corruption, ranking as one of the ten least corrupt countries in the world. These seem incongruous, somehow.

often northern Europe is like this... or Switzerland. I have seen incredible stuff in Switzerland.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by graeme »

gaucheph wrote: post #72
Reason077 wrote: post #4

> "Armin received a bottle of jenever in thanks. „But the customs made me throw it away before the return flight. I couldn’t even take a sip.”" It would have been airport security that made him throw it away, not customs. At that time, the UK was part of the customs union, so there were no customs on a flight between the Netherlands and UK.

what's the significance of this distinction?

Accuracy? Always worth striving for. For example it’s akin to saying “the police made me go through a metal detector” if building security did or “the nurse gave me CPR” when a lifeguard did.

They’re....close but it isn’t the same.

In case you were asking literally: security are the people that make you throw out liquids due to bomb threats and check for weapons. Customs see you after the plane across a border and check that you didn’t bring anything that requires payment of border tax. If you do, they will make you pay the tax at the border before entry.

Re: The cesspool of the internet is to be found in a village in North Holland

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Post by tyingq »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #77
fallingknife wrote: post #6

> When the hoster receives an official request from the US to remove copyrighted materials – a DMCA takedown notice – the men do nothing about it, says a person who saw it happen. „DMCAs are just tossed in the wastepaper basket.” Subletters even advertise this ‘service’. „DMCA ignored” reads one advertisement offering space in the „state of the art Ecatel DataCenter, located in Amsterdam”. The Dutch hosting company d…

>Dutch law states that a hosting company cannot be prosecuted for the actions of those who hire its servers. It is impossible for a hosting company to know the content of every byte on those servers. But hosting companies are required to take action if they are informed of the presence of illegal content. The question is how quickly and how actively they do so. Chucking a DMCA in the trash sounds like it's against Du…

I don't think a DMCA constitutes "presence of illegal content". It constitutes presence of "content with a US copyright, maybe".
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