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Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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Not even 3. I don't remember seeing tearing on my Linux for a heck of a long time.

Really? Last year when we were in the office multiple of my coworkers had awful tearing on their Linux machines of multiple distros. I’m sure it was related to their specific hardware/driver setups but still. These were workstation class machines. I can’t remember ever seeing tearing on my MacOS machines. And I’m even using a cheapo $15 DisplayPort adapter for my third monitor.

I haven't seen tearing in years either except in somewhat exotic cases [1], so I wouldn't be surprised that there are other people who haven't either. Nor am I really surprised that some people do get tearing.

My recent experiences have been exclusively with Intel integrated GPUs on a laptop, which seem to be a fairly reliable option in terms of desktop compatibility and integration nowadays. I don't know what the current state of e.g. proprietary NVidia drivers is, but I wouldn't be surprised if you ran into more problems in terms of compatibility with the rest of the desktop system (including stuff like tearing) with those than with some of the better open source drivers.

Workstation-class machines might thus actually be more prone to tearing if they require using proprietary drivers.

That doesn't make it any less of a problem if your coworkers' machines did exhibit problems, of course.

[1] I've seen tearing e.g. when playing a web video in the Steam client, but I find that more of a corner case than browsers or general desktop use.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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Windows users who switch to macOS will complain that their new shiny and expensive machine won't let them to go through their photos in a folder using the arrow keys and they have to open the photos one by one. Then you tell them to hit the space when a photo is selected, they first look at the keyboard then at the screen and they are like "O.K. that will work", you proceed to tell them to try it on a PDF or somethin…

For me, that moment was uninstalling an app. I had to Google it. “Drag the app to the trash bin.” Remember how hard it is to uninstall stuff on Windows? Especially if you’re doing more than one?

Some settings can be left behind, but AppCleaner[1] will find them.

[1] https://freemacsoft.net/appcleaner/

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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What I would like to add is: bluetooth support and sound stuff. It feels like it's still an afterthought in the community and is still flaky at best. I think the main problem with linux on desktops shows quite perfectly in this thread. Good UX? Nah, why would we? Invest your own time, fiddle around until you settle on a mediocre and cumbersome solution. I've been using Arch for over 13 years now and over 10 years of…

You are too harsh, good UX is subjective.

I have not found anything better than wmii, last year replicated experience in xmonad now without any WM controls. My environment is clean and unobtrusive — xterm, vim, mpv, mupdf. Arch Linux user since 2009. Recently I've tried Windows and macOS, can't stand them.

There are other projects though — Gnome, KDE, more mainstream approach.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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Preview is one of the most underrated pieces of software in the world today. I make the assumption that Quicklook uses Preview (because surely it must). Being able to hit spacebar on just about any kind of selected document/image type file and see a near instant look, multiple pages and all, is so important. Once you don't have that (move to the Windows world), you realize how much you miss it. And you can, with a sm…

You may want HyperDock[1] which enables that behaviour. There is also HyperSwitch[2] which switches windows, not apps. It's a beta, but still works great on Big Sur. [1] https://bahoom.com/hyperdock [2] https://bahoom.com/hyperswitch

Command + Backtick was a pretty big game changer to switch between windows. I understand the difference between that and Hyperswitch, but I’ve rarely been truly wanting for something much more than Cmd+`

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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I honestly have not met another Linux user in Silicon Valley that actually lives here and I have been here 7 years.

I have to fly to Germany and hang out at CCC to find people that know how to be productive with open source hacker-friendly software. It is even rare over there to meet a Mac user. I meet more FreeBSD users than Mac users in Europe.

Meanwhile in the US It feels like at every new employer or client it is a PITA to get a Linux machine because no one has ever asked for one before. It is just assumed no one could possibly get a technical job done without Apple.

I have been told multiple times that I need to use Apple so IT can help me when it breaks in spite of me literally being a Linux hardening specialist who even has a few lines in the kernel. I can maintain my own machine, thanks.

I have even had people insist on sending me Apple laptops even if a Linux machine is approved just because they are so sure I am going to need it. I never do.

Where are all of you hiding? I feel like I need a support group of people that also opped out of the cult.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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So, does "Just Work" now include easily accessible noob-proof configuration of the things you want? In that case, macOS doesn't Just Work for me, because I want to be able to see what apps are playing sound or recording and manually set them to different sinks/sources, maybe even have sound playing from multiple devices at the same time. On Linux with PulseAudio and pavucontrol, this is effortlessly configurable with…

Try soundflower for mac. I think JACK audio also works on Mac/Win. > "Just Works" is a useless subjective specifier. I'd say a good usable mail client, a readily available video editor, sound recording software and office suite are more important than an advanced audio mixer. > sound playing from multiple devices at the same time This seems like a very niche use case. Along the lines of the usual nerdy response of li…

> I'd say a good usable mail client, a readily available video editor, sound recording software and office suite are more important than an advanced audio mixer.

I'm not disputing that. It isn't hard to agree on what an average user definitely needs and therefore must work. The hard part is where to draw the line, what is still needed and what is niche.

> This seems like a very niche use case.

Maybe. But it's very much something an "average user" might want. It's actually something I want to be able to do so I can watch a film with my sister, each with our own headphones. That's a real user need, not something "meta" like the FLOSS things you mentioned (not a solution by itself, but something that can help a programmer fill that user need).

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Preview is one of the most underrated pieces of software in the world today. I make the assumption that Quicklook uses Preview (because surely it must). Being able to hit spacebar on just about any kind of selected document/image type file and see a near instant look, multiple pages and all, is so important. Once you don't have that (move to the Windows world), you realize how much you miss it. And you can, with a sm…

Quicklook is such an amazing feature and it seems so basic that I just don’t get why windows hasn’t added anything like that. Are there patents on this? Just an example that I have about every day: before sharing a file via file select/open dialog I can double check if it’s the correct one. I can only speculate that quicklook prevents a substantial amount of accidental information leak across the entire world :)

The magic of quicklook isn’t really about the behavior in Finder, though. The magic of it is that it’s available as an API to developers. I use an app that is ostensibly marketed as an image viewer but, because it uses quicklook to render file content, it can open all the file types that quicklook supports.

Being able to use an image viewer to cycle files in a zip archive (without extracting them) and be able to render anything from images to spreadsheets to pdf files is pretty remarkable.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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> Because Apple stuff doesn't "just work" any more. This is essentially a false statement for all intents and purposes. Apple software does “just work” with Apple hardware.

Yes if you live your life exactly as Apple wants you to (plus some luck). Otherwise you get "you are holding it wrong" bugs.

The counterpoint is that if you don’t want to use it for what it’s designed to be used for, that’s on you.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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For opening a very large and organizationally complex PDF like the ARMv8 Architecture Reference Manual, Preview.app is the only PDF reader, on any platform, which I would recommend. The competition is simply a joke in comparison. I also like it for filling out PDF forms; I think I ended up using a web service (!!) the last time I wanted to do that on another platform.

But aside from Preview.app, I don't find anything commendable about macOS. I've remained on an old and vulnerable version to ensure I don't lose control of my own hardware, and what's more, I will never upgrade that hardware given how bad the new hardware seems.

In short, I'm just waiting for a Preview.app clone/same-weight-class competitor on Windows and I'll be off to one of Msft's first party laptops.

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