533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have been leaked online • Hacker News Board

Re: 533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have been leaked online

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Post by Nextgrid » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 4:55 PM UTC

kristianc wrote: post #43

Interested to know the GDPR implications of this for Facebook. This seems like one of those occasions where the regulator might be tempted to impose the maximum fine…

See my other comments on this thread about Facebook's situation with the GDPR: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26682200

Long story short, regulators already have more than enough evidence about Facebook's lack of GDPR compliance so they could've already imposed large fines if they wanted to. The fact that it hasn't happened yet shows there's no motivation to actually enforce the regulation.

Re: 533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have been leaked online

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Post by tnolet » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 4:55 PM UTC

rikkipitt wrote: post #5

I’ve been getting a lot of automated/unsolicited calls recently. Begs the question if this might be the source of my woes. Is there a trustworthy phone number version of https://haveibeenpwned.com ?

European here. What are these bot calls exactly? Never had one as I guess it’s forbidden where I live.

Re: 533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have been leaked online

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Post by egwor » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 4:56 PM UTC

tpush wrote: post #45

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #16

Would like to know if non Facebook users are included because Facebook has non Facebook user's phone numbers due to the fact that Whatsapp uploads the entire phonebook to Whatsapp. That means Facebook is likely to know your phone number although you don't use Facebook or Whatsapp.

Whatsapp doesn't share phone book data with Facebook.

That doesn't seem to be correct, although what does 'phone numbers' mean in this context?

Quote: "WhatsApp, which was acquired by Facebook in 2014, does share some limited data with Facebook, including phone numbers. However, the firm has reassured users that messages will always be protected by end-t0-end encryption, which means neither WhatsApp or Facebook can see these private conversations"

Source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlypage/2021/01/15/whatsapp-d...

Re: 533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have been leaked online

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Post by HenryKissinger » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 4:56 PM UTC

anonymousiam wrote: post #70

The root of the problem is not the privacy policy or the system security. The root of the problem is the collection itself. All large businesses, health care providers, and governments maintain databases. Every one of them will eventually be leaked. All it takes is a corruptible trusted insider.

> Every one of them will eventually be leaked.

[X] Doubt

Re: 533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have been leaked online

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Post by mrweasel » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 4:56 PM UTC

kwertyoowiyop wrote: post #42

Don’t worry, Facebook will soon put out a press release including the phrase “we need to do better.”

That kinda sad, because that is what’s going to happen and then we’ll nothing more.

At this point I’m not really sure what it will take for companies, like Facebook, to understand that you need to not fuck around with peoples private data.

Re: 533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have been leaked online

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Post by xyzzy123 » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 4:56 PM UTC

noxer wrote: post #57

spicybright wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The phone number point may still be true though, they have to store the phone number somewhere.

They could store a salted hash instead for almost everything except using the number as actual phone number (call/SMS)

You need to do a bit more than that; a one-way transform with no secrets isn't good enough for easily brute-forceable data like phone numbers, SSNs, passport numbers, credit card numbers etc. There's just not enough entropy in the data.

There are ways to do these things though so the spirit of your comment is correct.

Re: 533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have been leaked online

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Post by anticristi » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 4:56 PM UTC

kristianc wrote: post #43

Interested to know the GDPR implications of this for Facebook. This seems like one of those occasions where the regulator might be tempted to impose the maximum fine…

I wish I were Irish. Imagine 3 billion dollars extra taxes! It's like a second COVID-19 relief package.

Re: 533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have been leaked online

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Post by dannyr » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 4:57 PM UTC

tpush wrote: post #45

I_am_tiberius wrote: post #16

Would like to know if non Facebook users are included because Facebook has non Facebook user's phone numbers due to the fact that Whatsapp uploads the entire phonebook to Whatsapp. That means Facebook is likely to know your phone number although you don't use Facebook or Whatsapp.

Whatsapp doesn't share phone book data with Facebook.

That's what Facebook says.

But Facebook has no history of lying right? /s

Re: 533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have been leaked online

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Post by skizm » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 4:57 PM UTC

cblconfederate wrote: post #67

timdaub wrote: post #33

Great, and while you can get sued into oblivion for downloading a Metallica album, all our personal data is downloadable from a public website for 3€. Like for real, it took me 2mins to find the leak myself...

At this point i don't see why only facebook and the thieves should have access to this data. If the data is public it loses its value

Why would the data being public stop robo-callers from using the list?

Re: 533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have been leaked online

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Post by BenchDwarf » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 4:58 PM UTC

timdaub wrote: post #33

Great, and while you can get sued into oblivion for downloading a Metallica album, all our personal data is downloadable from a public website for 3€. Like for real, it took me 2mins to find the leak myself...

Source?