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Re: ShipMap

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Post by tinus_hn » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 2:01 PM UTC

paulgb wrote: post #5

hobbescotch wrote: post #4

Does anyone know where they get the data for these shipping map sites?

In this case, the underlying data is from exactEarth. It’s not free data. I believe exactEarth obtains the data by reading the pings from the ship’s transponders. https://www.exactearth.com/product-exactearth-shipview

It’s free in the sense that there are projects where as long as you are operating an antenna feeding data, you get access to a feed of all data for free with the only restriction being you can’t compete by just restreaming the complete feed.

Re: ShipMap

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Post by tyingq » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 2:11 PM UTC

There's some interesting anomoly at the north east top bit of South America (both Colombia and Venezuela) where some really fast boats are regularly skipping across land.

Re: ShipMap

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Post by GordonS » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 2:11 PM UTC

hellbannedguy wrote: post #6

There are pirates (thieves, but I like Pirate better?) whom were renting luxury boats in the Mediterranean, and stealing them. They would fly to Europe, and dress like rich fancy boys. They would then rent the ships for vacation. They would take the transponder off the luxury vessel, and put it on a toy boat. The owner would check on his vessel, and it all looked fine. Meanwhile, the thieves would have the boat in Ru…

Hmm, this seems almost like the perfect crime - easy to pull off, and difficult to get caught.

I wonder what protections can be made against this? Tamper-proofing the transponders might go some way, but a bullet-proof solution likely isn't possible.

Re: ShipMap

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Post by graderjs » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 2:17 PM UTC

Great live / interactive data visualization.

Great voiceover narration.

Weird, weird choice of pondering, melancholy rainy-day ballerina-dance music. Is it a British thing?

Re: ShipMap

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Post by dogma1138 » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 2:22 PM UTC

hellbannedguy wrote: post #6

There are pirates (thieves, but I like Pirate better?) whom were renting luxury boats in the Mediterranean, and stealing them. They would fly to Europe, and dress like rich fancy boys. They would then rent the ships for vacation. They would take the transponder off the luxury vessel, and put it on a toy boat. The owner would check on his vessel, and it all looked fine. Meanwhile, the thieves would have the boat in Ru…

How do they sail into Russia? They would need their own AIS transponder and a valid ship registration, the Greek/Turkish maritime zone and the Black Sea has a tone of coast guard and military activity and you need to Lee-register/declare traversal.

Going into Russia through the northern sea doesn’t seem to be viable either.

Re: ShipMap

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Post by shlant » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 2:33 PM UTC

pbrw wrote: post #24

Is there any economy/strategic game about delivering goods with cargo ships, containers, etc.? I would love to play it.

there is a board game about exactly that:

https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/26990/container

Re: ShipMap

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Post by temp8964 » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 2:36 PM UTC

antihero wrote: post #17

hellbannedguy wrote: post #6

There are pirates (thieves, but I like Pirate better?) whom were renting luxury boats in the Mediterranean, and stealing them. They would fly to Europe, and dress like rich fancy boys. They would then rent the ships for vacation. They would take the transponder off the luxury vessel, and put it on a toy boat. The owner would check on his vessel, and it all looked fine. Meanwhile, the thieves would have the boat in Ru…

Not going to lie but this sounds far more entertaining than sitting at my dining room all day making computer programs.

In a broader sense, they can be considered as hackers.

Re: ShipMap

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Post by robinhouston » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 2:42 PM UTC

It’s lovely to see this here! I made it a few years ago; it was the last project we made under the Kiln banner before we devoted all our efforts to building a software platform (Flourish) instead.

If anyone has any questions, AMA!

Re: ShipMap

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Post by dasudasu » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 2:47 PM UTC

graderjs wrote: post #34

Great live / interactive data visualization. Great voiceover narration. Weird, weird choice of pondering, melancholy rainy-day ballerina-dance music. Is it a British thing?

I think the point is that we're supposed to feel sad about this economic activity because it's emitting tons of CO2.

Re: ShipMap

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Post by edge17 » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 2:59 PM UTC

robinhouston wrote: post #38

It’s lovely to see this here! I made it a few years ago; it was the last project we made under the Kiln banner before we devoted all our efforts to building a software platform (Flourish) instead. If anyone has any questions, AMA!

Where does the data come from?