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Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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No offense, but this largely reads to me like "I don't wanna use Linux because I wanna use Mac". If you want to move to a different system, you can't expect to get the same thing. Really, the only complaints I can agree with now are 2 and 3, the rest is just invalid. You've got kdeconnect gsconnect nextcloud keepassxc many, many configurable mail clients, especially the beatiful, integrated kmail and their whole PIM…

Not even 3. I don't remember seeing tearing on my Linux for a heck of a long time.

Try watching Netflix in Firefox or Chromium. Or enable smooth scrolling in Firefox and hit PageDown a couple times. The issue with scrolling can be resolved by enabling hardware acceleration, but this isn't the default in Firefox and the obscure config breaks from time to time. Until hardware acceleration becomes the default, not an opt-in, I consider this feature broken.

Aside from Netflix, I'll sometimes see tearing even on YouTube, when I put it on fullscreen. Luckily, there is mpv with builtin youtube-dl support, which solves this problem. But I haven't found a solution for Netflix, other than rebooting into Windows, or switching to my Mac.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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If you're complaining about Linux drivers please do so after using a Laptop that supports Linux (Thinkpads for example). So I Googled “laptops supported by Linux”. There is no official site. Ubuntu has a page. But it’s not on the first page of results. I only know about it because I’m familiar with it. Supporters keeps arguing people should jump through hoops. I’m on Linux right now, but people have better things to…

+1 I find it absurd that (some) linux supporters find it not only ok but even a must, to have to tinker around your machine in order to make everything work. I could understand it in the 90s but this is a very different era we're in. I get zero value from having to tinker with my x-org settings to make the external screen work (sometimes). I'm using a computer to create value elsewhere and having to even think about…

Depends on what you tinker with. Getting basic things to work on your hardware is frustrating. Nobody wants to deal with that really. The answer for that is getting a laptop (or desktop) that is well supported. I know it can feel limiting, but with OSX you only get to choose from one vendor...

If we talk about tinkering for customizing your user experience then it's very empowering. You can get things to work exactly as you'd like and that is a productivity booster. (Even if it just removes frustration and friction.) Sometimes it means being able to undo the stupid decisions of the developers (e.g. GNOME) which may seem like the first category (i.e. you have to tinker just in order to get things work again as they used to), but if you are stuck on windows or osx you'd have a lot less chance to do so and you'd lot more likely just have to put up with it.

E.g. in the past 2+ decades I have to wrestle to get my desktop grid layout (3x3 desktops/workspaces) to work, because some idiot back around 2000 figured out that it's "not the right metaphor" or what not and they should not be geometrically related, yadda-yadda. Since then, every major upgrade of gnome breaks the external solution I use (which is different every time). Is it frustrating? Yes. At least I know not to upgrade until I know there is a workaround again. But I can keep using it nevertheless. (I used to have a utility that provided this feature on windows. The last version I've used it on was XP and even back then it wasn't available for download anymore. I'm not sure at all if I could still use it on win10 or even win7.)

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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The machine also has to run Lightroom.

You are probably better off with the Mac, but I can recommend one option that many people ignore but that works for well me. Modern Linux virtualization (KVM/Qemu) is powerful and is getting easier to setup with programs such as Virtual Machine Manager and Boxes. I run several Windows VMs without problems and they have usable performance. I have used Windows VMs for Word and Skype for Business using KVM.

I'm certainly better off with the Mac.

Lightroom is an utter resource hog and practically unusable without GPU acceleration - reasonable given the 45-megabyte raws I develop in it, but still a constraint. Too, I use a physical edit controller that needs a driver of its own, and setting up USB passthrough is probably a hassle. Judging by the docs I've read, setting up GPU passthrough certainly is. Meanwhile, the Mac driver for that edit controller, compiled to x86_64 and not yet updated for arm64, works flawlessly and with no extra effort under Rosetta 2. (And Darktable isn't really an option - impressive as anything given the constraints the devs have to work under, but one of those constraints is relatively poor support for undocumented raw formats including those my cameras produce, so I can't get the same quality of results out of it that Lightroom gives me.)

In general, I avoid sysadmin work wherever possible these days, as for example when I migrated to Fastmail in January after 17 years of self-hosting. Back when I set that up, I had more time than money, and an interest in learning how to do it, besides. These days I have more money than time, and already know very well how. So at this point it's just a question of the most efficient use of resources, and - in part because of that drive to learn new things, which I now apply to other technologies - obtaining more money has become fairly straightforward, while obtaining more time is of course impossible, human life lasting only as long as it does.

Sure, by dint of enough effort, I could have got WSL2 working acceptably, or get Lightroom running OK under virtualization, or whatever. But at this stage in my life, I can afford to spend money to not have to deal with those problems, so that was what I happily did.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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Multi-touch doesn’t get in the way of the screen on Mac. Also doesn’t require changing how you hold the device.

The point being, multi-touch was what got the the smartphone revolution going, especially on the Web. Whereas now…

I bought an iPhone on day one in 2007. For me it was more about a nearly-all-screen device with a usable browser and navigation than anything else at that point. Jeez, that’s still mostly what I use it for. Pinch is certainly nice, but I hardly thought about multi touch when looking at the value proposition. The Apple Pencil is what got me to finally buy an iPad (and immediately miss the side-click I’ve been used to with computer pens since circa 2001).

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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If you're complaining about Linux drivers please do so after using a Laptop that supports Linux (Thinkpads for example). Just like it wouldn't be fair to complain about macOS on a Hackintosh - sound didn't work well and had to patch the DSDT. > but there are rough edges for the power user. > I am an extreme power user, ... > In the end, I was able to replicate most of my macOS power tools setup via input hooks and sh…

If you're complaining about Linux drivers please do so after using a Laptop that supports Linux (Thinkpads for example). So I Googled “laptops supported by Linux”. There is no official site. Ubuntu has a page. But it’s not on the first page of results. I only know about it because I’m familiar with it. Supporters keeps arguing people should jump through hoops. I’m on Linux right now, but people have better things to…

https://linux-hardware.org/ here you go.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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On a mac I can't live without "Magnet" [1]. It lets you do organize your windows in half/thirds of screens with simple keystrokes. That should be part of the OS. [1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/magnet/id441258766?mt=12

I used Magnet extensively when I used a mac. There is no linux equivalent.

The feature is typically included in the desktop environment on Linux (and Windows).

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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I would like to see someone do the equivalent experiment now with a Win10+WSL2 setup. I'm carefully watching Apple to see what the next line of Macbook Pros looks like. Esp. how well the M1 architecture fits into a development workflow that will still for the forseeable future center heavily on deployment to x86 architecture. We already are seeing significant time wastage from employees having to fight architecture i…

A couple Saturdays ago, I spent thirty minutes setting up WSL2 on a Windows 10 machine. Immediately afterward, I called Apple and spent a thousand dollars on an M1 Mac mini for same-day pickup. I've been running Linux devenvs on Windows, in Virtualbox, for something well over a decade now. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that the vaunted WSL2 is literally just that, plus preinstalled OS images that save maybe a…

Apparently WSL 1 is different, it's a layer between linux apps and the windows kernel. WSL 2 is not great, esp. file operations, that's why VSCode has a wsl plugin.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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No offense, but this largely reads to me like "I don't wanna use Linux because I wanna use Mac". If you want to move to a different system, you can't expect to get the same thing. Really, the only complaints I can agree with now are 2 and 3, the rest is just invalid. You've got kdeconnect gsconnect nextcloud keepassxc many, many configurable mail clients, especially the beatiful, integrated kmail and their whole PIM…

Not even 3. I don't remember seeing tearing on my Linux for a heck of a long time.

I actually experienced pretty bad tearing running i3 on a new (at the time, last August) Dell XPS 13, but switching to Wayland/sway fixed it and its been running flawlessly on that since.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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If you're complaining about Linux drivers please do so after using a Laptop that supports Linux (Thinkpads for example). So I Googled “laptops supported by Linux”. There is no official site. Ubuntu has a page. But it’s not on the first page of results. I only know about it because I’m familiar with it. Supporters keeps arguing people should jump through hoops. I’m on Linux right now, but people have better things to…

+1 I find it absurd that (some) linux supporters find it not only ok but even a must, to have to tinker around your machine in order to make everything work. I could understand it in the 90s but this is a very different era we're in. I get zero value from having to tinker with my x-org settings to make the external screen work (sometimes). I'm using a computer to create value elsewhere and having to even think about…

I don't have to mess around with xorg config for more than 10 years.

I'm using Debian and the only thing I had to do is enable non-free to get some firmwares.

Everything works 100% hassle free.

My experiences with macos were quite frustrating, specially around package management (or the lack of it), poor quality of brew packages (too many dependencies breaking stuff), constant slowdown and crashes with mildly median workload, screen artifacts around the desktop time to time, having to disable stuff to be able to change things in /usr or /etc, too many stuff eating up ram by default, etc.

Honestly don't know how people can use that and be happy.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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> Either provide a list so people know exactly what to buy, or all complaints are valid. Sure, these are two devices I have recently used with Linux that work out of the box: Dell XPS 13 ThinkPad T14s Or more generally, you can extend that to any ThinkPad or Dell device without a dedicated graphics card and you will have a good Linux experience. OP somehow has issues on XPS 13, probably due to meddling with too many…

> Or more generally, you can extend that to any ThinkPad or Dell device without a dedicated graphics card and you will have a good Linux experience. That isn't true. The X1 Carbon from 2019 didn't have a working microphone driver for over a year. If you care about Linux you should only buy a machine with Linux preinstalled and officially supported.

Interesting. My wife got a X1 Carbon in 2016, that worked out-of-the-box too. Wonder what they screwed up in 2019.
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