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Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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On top of my mind, I think of: Brew upgrade usually breaks stuff if it hasn't been updated in a couple of months, which is not the case for other package managers. Forced update on any command is really bad behavior.

Per gp, I haven't used Pacman in a long time, but when Arch was really popular I'd have a virtual machine, ignore it for a few months, then updates usually failed or rendered the machine inoperable. The Arch wiki was so good that it inevitably included the exact problem and resolution already, but since I didn't have any important running systems I also might as well have reinstalled the whole thing. In which case I'…

Nowadays you can install Arch to a zfs or btrfs subvolume and have snapshots before every update, so a failed update requires you to just reboot to the previous snapshot and do a rollback.

NixOS has a similar strategy.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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I also carried out this experiment, mainly cos I couldn’t afford a Mac for a while. Completely agree with all his comments except: the default terminal in Ubuntu is a gazillion times better than Mac and that makes a huge difference. But ultimately productivity suites matter, webmail sucks, and all of the email clients on Linux were awful. That’s a showstopper for anyone doing a lot of office or management work.

I have a hard time seeing, as a long time Linux user, how the default mac terminal is crap ? It's very responsive, fast, you have most of the features you need. That compared to the clunky, slow gnome terminal for example, or the many various RXVT xterm clones.

Of course, you can install iTerm2 which is even better.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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Preview is probably the most underrated app of all time, with “quick look” as a contender for most under-appreciated feature. Just hitting spacebar to see virtually any file, and the ability to open in preview and read or even markup and make small changes, is so nice. Whenever I use a non-Mac system I really miss those two features.

Preview works better than anything I’ve found for adding or deleting pages to a PDF, and using the camera to input your signature is such a nice feature.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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I also carried out this experiment, mainly cos I couldn’t afford a Mac for a while. Completely agree with all his comments except: the default terminal in Ubuntu is a gazillion times better than Mac and that makes a huge difference. But ultimately productivity suites matter, webmail sucks, and all of the email clients on Linux were awful. That’s a showstopper for anyone doing a lot of office or management work.

> all of the email clients on Linux were awful Thunderbird is pretty good and in my experience, less buggy than Apple Mail, especially when using providers other than iCloud. My wife absolutely hated Apple Mail, primarily because it would forget passwords and stop syncing/sending. So I moved her to Thunderbird and now she's happy.

I've been using Thunderbird for like a decade, but I've been spoiled by Fastmail's web interface so much that I now consider Thunderbird to be one giant mess from a UX perspective.

Half the time I miss-click the first email and sort by subject. In what world would I want to sort my emails by subject!?

Search vs. filter messages, I really don't need two search bars, one is fine.

I'm annoyed that the default sort is oldest to newest, and that I have to change it for each individual folder.

Tabs really don't fit into how I consume my email. Flagging important ones is good enough.

I'd take Geary (https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Geary) over Thunderbird any day, but lack of GPG integration is what's forcing me to stick to Thunderbird.

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> Yes, the apps I missed the most from the Mac were Mail.app, Calendar.app, and Preview.app. > I am an extreme power user Do those statements really go together? I'm not trying to stir anything; genuinely curious.

Being a power user doesn’t mean that you have to run basic functionality like mail and calendar stuff from the terminal, and the GUI equivalents on Linux are not good enough

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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>apt-get was a revolution when it was released in 1998 and it is still the best way to manage software today. brew is a mediocre replacement. While apt still isn't the best package manager (my heart belongs to pacman, no matter what the haters say), I completely agree that brew is a failed imitation. I wanted to use MacOS for the longest time, because I've been told that it's a real "Unix system". Brew has distilled…

Honest question, what's the advantage of pacman over apt?

Apt itself is great, but the PPA repos that make every dist upgrade more complex is kind of not nice. With pacman you have AUR and very simple package scripts, that lets you easily add whatever to your system that's not included in the distribution.

With apt this is not that straightforward.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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People state consistent shortcut mapping is an advantage of using Mac but after 2 years of being required to use a Macbook Pro I'm not really sure about that - often they are more complicated IMO. I still miss built in Linux and Windows key mappings. For example Windows + Left to move the window on the left side of screen for side by side apps on the same screen. Great for remote demo's and coding sessions. Ctrl + Sh…

On a mac I can't live without "Magnet" [1]. It lets you do organize your windows in half/thirds of screens with simple keystrokes. That should be part of the OS. [1] https://apps.apple.com/us/app/magnet/id441258766?mt=12

I use a hammerspoon script called "MiroWindowsManager", which works very well:

    local hyper = {"ctrl", "alt", "cmd"}

    hs.loadSpoon("MiroWindowsManager")

    hs.window.animationDuration = 0.3
    spoon.MiroWindowsManager:bindHotkeys({
      up = {hyper, "up"},
      right = {hyper, "right"},
      down = {hyper, "down"},
      left = {hyper, "left"},
      fullscreen = {hyper, "f"}
    })

https://www.hammerspoon.org/Spoons/MiroWindowsManager.html

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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> Yes, the apps I missed the most from the Mac were Mail.app, Calendar.app, and Preview.app. > I am an extreme power user Do those statements really go together? I'm not trying to stir anything; genuinely curious.

I saw that OP missed Calendar.app and I was convinced he was a liar. I regret that this is so aggressively ad hominem but Calendar has such obvious bugs I do not believe anyone - even the Calendar dev team - uses it.

It has two jobs: store events and remind you about events. Calendar gives notifications 10 minutes into meetings I'm already in (because my phone tells me about the meetings). It is unfathomable that this could have been released if anyone uses it.

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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I also switched to Linux, and I love it, but only on my desktop machine. I got uhk for key remapping, and that's been great. For email and calendar, I use wavebox, which side steps most of the app issues. As the article says: The laptop experience is not anywhere near as good. I had a lot of the same issues, even on a system 76. Eventually I decided to try giving windows wsl2 a shot for my laptop, and I gotta give Mi…

So you never updated Windows 10, not?

Re: Fed up with the Mac, I spent six months with a Linux laptop

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What a topsy-turvy article. Mail is fine if you use browser-based solutions. Nobody is talking about only sending plaintext emails? Wtf? Why are they running so much stuff on wine? Why are they upgrading their kernel every few weeks? How does anyone think nautilus is good? How does anyone think that Gimp/inkscape are better than affinity designer? These are the things they find useful about linux? There's so much mor…

Maybe how you use Linux is different from how the authors uses Linux? Maybe their relation to their computer is different from yours? Maybe Linux serves some use cases well, and not others?
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