Self driving is not possible without changes to infrastructure. We know this because NHS tried in 1960’s and was able to succeed with this approach. Government will have to solve problem first. How? Installing sensors on our highways that cars can use. Anything this big in scale can’t be solved by the private sector alone, you also need better infrastructure.
CEO of Waymo John Krafcik is leaving
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Re: CEO of Waymo John Krafcik is leaving
#22"To start, I’m looking forward to a refresh period, reconnecting with old friends and family, and discovering new parts of the world."
I suppose that is a nice way of saying wait out my non-compete....
Re: CEO of Waymo John Krafcik is leaving
#23Am I the only one to read like an acknowledgement that Waymo didn’t achieve what it was supposed to do and he was asked to go for lack of performance?
I read it as a state of self-driving cars in general. The technology isn't developing as fast as people had hoped. Waymo is still in the lead, even if this guy failed to deliver (he announced Waymo would be a public service for 2018, and that obviously didn't happen).
>The technology isn't developing as fast as people had hoped.
I can’t help but think people conflated what the problem statement of self driving really is. We’ve made huge strides in perception in the last two decades but self-driving is a much more complex problem than just accurately perceiving the world sound us.
Re: CEO of Waymo John Krafcik is leaving
#24This combined with the recent announcement of Waymo pivoting to monetize their research in what's basically a garage sale (https://waymo.com/lidar) tells me that Waymo is soon to be interred on killedbygoogle.com.
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#25That's sad. I must be the only one who thinks full self driving will not happen before year 2100. Is there an example of anything that's completely automated that's dangerous? I cannot think of a single thing. At best things are partially automated and need humans still. The thing is, if you have "partial" self driving, you might as well just drive yourself IMHO. The consequence of being wrong with a car is literally…
Does anyone else think that may be full autonomous flying of aircraft will be easier to make practical than driving of automobiles?
Re: CEO of Waymo John Krafcik is leaving
#26For fully autonomous driving need to happen, all cars must exchange data with each other how robots do in a factory floor.
Image and depth perception can solve some problems but a crash or a vehicle can maneuver in any direction. If two self driving cars need to take a decision at a intersection, how are they gonna do it?
Re: CEO of Waymo John Krafcik is leaving
#27That's sad. I must be the only one who thinks full self driving will not happen before year 2100. Is there an example of anything that's completely automated that's dangerous? I cannot think of a single thing. At best things are partially automated and need humans still. The thing is, if you have "partial" self driving, you might as well just drive yourself IMHO. The consequence of being wrong with a car is literally…
2100 is almost 80 years from now. Think back to 1940 and how different our world was then. Cars will certainly be automated to some degree. And that will cause a great reduction in the almost 1.35 million people killed globally by motor vehicle accidents.
A US statistic: In 2010, there were an estimated 5,419,000 crashes, 30,296 deadly, killing 32,999, and injuring 2,239,000. It is hard for me to imagine a scenario where automated driving is as unsafe as that.
We will truly look back and think, "Did we really trust others to operate multi ton metal machinery at exceedingly high speeds at each other day after day?"
Re: CEO of Waymo John Krafcik is leaving
#28On one hand this kind of makes sense to me - his experience in the actual auto industry must have seemed invaluable when he was hired in 2015 and people thought self driving would be brought to mass market in a couple years.
But now that everyone assumes we're in for the long haul (Aurora says 2025 for L4 in some cities), it doesn't make sense for him to want to stay.
Re: CEO of Waymo John Krafcik is leaving
#29Am I the only one to read like an acknowledgement that Waymo didn’t achieve what it was supposed to do and he was asked to go for lack of performance?
No, he wants to spend more time with friends and family and travel the world.
Maybe. But a lot of us are cynical when we hear this kind of language from departing CEOs.
Re: CEO of Waymo John Krafcik is leaving
#30That's sad. I must be the only one who thinks full self driving will not happen before year 2100. Is there an example of anything that's completely automated that's dangerous? I cannot think of a single thing. At best things are partially automated and need humans still. The thing is, if you have "partial" self driving, you might as well just drive yourself IMHO. The consequence of being wrong with a car is literally…
2100 is almost 80 years from now. Think back to 1940 and how different our world was then. Cars will certainly be automated to some degree. And that will cause a great reduction in the almost 1.35 million people killed globally by motor vehicle accidents. A US statistic: In 2010, there were an estimated 5,419,000 crashes, 30,296 deadly, killing 32,999, and injuring 2,239,000. It is hard for me to imagine a scenario w…
> Cars will certainly be automated to some degree. And that will cause a great reduction in the almost 1.35 million people killed globally by motor vehicle accidents.
They already are. I'm talking about full self driving. A car without a steering wheel. Cruise control (arguably the first car automation) has existed since the 1900s. Potentially earlier depending on how you define it.