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Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by gregmac »

nkozyra wrote: post #72
svantana wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting that the newest genre on there is trap from 2010. I'm trying to think of newer styles, the only one I can come up with is the so-called "hyperpop" by PC Music, Sophie and 100 gecs. But that's been around since 2012 or so. I'm guessing it's a combination of factors: 1) Playlist culture negates the need for a clear taxonomy of music 2) It takes a few years of hindsight to recognize what is a real genre…

It's not up to date by any measure. There are new electronic genres popping up yearly, and usually it's the opposite of what you describe. Usually one artist does something new, quickly gets labeled and then the copycats start up. It's almost a branding exercise. Genres come and go as you say, and technically most genres are "hype" as they tend to last only briefly. There's nothing unique or new about that. I don't u…

It's akin to sorting an incoming set of something like Lego, where you never know what's coming next.

Do you need a bin for "red"? Or a bin for "2x4"? Or will there be enough for "2x4 red"? Should this new "red hat" become it's own bin, and if so is it "hats", "red figure decorations" or "misc"?

You don't really know until a bunch of the same things come in (or don't), and guaranteed you'll get a bunch wrong along the way.

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by flyflyFenix »

I love this site, but it would take 5 lines of CSS to make it more usable. Why would you ever hardcode a 540px margin and padding on divs that have no class or id? Here's one line to help anyone out to remove horizontal scrollbars to completely blank spaces:

    div,html,body{ max-width: 100% !important; }

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by [deleted] »

samatman wrote: post #26

This means I have to pitch Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music. https://music.ishkur.com Recently updated, it's a comprehensive history and map of electronic music. It's been around since 2000, played a big role in my life. Highly recommended.

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Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by agallant »

This is a fun tool, but it's also pretty revealing of the arbitrariness with which "genre" is labeled. Though I get that there is frequent innovation in electronic music, I would argue the same is true of all music, yet electronic music is the most likely to see that innovation as a "new genre."

Searching this page for "jazz" I find results that don't really capture the space, and instead go deep into interesting but likely unrepresentative niches ("icelandic jazz") that musicologists probably wouldn't consider genres/subgenres. There's also things that clearly aren't genres but are just keywords people like using ("jazz organ", "jazz clarinet").

Overall, again this is a fun music discovery tool, but if you want to learn about music genres I'd suggest reading about music history. This doesn't just mean old/classical music (though it is influential), there's lots of fascinating books about modern music as well.

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by mixedCase »

jerf wrote: post #69
svantana wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting that the newest genre on there is trap from 2010. I'm trying to think of newer styles, the only one I can come up with is the so-called "hyperpop" by PC Music, Sophie and 100 gecs. But that's been around since 2012 or so. I'm guessing it's a combination of factors: 1) Playlist culture negates the need for a clear taxonomy of music 2) It takes a few years of hindsight to recognize what is a real genre…

My guess is that genres have become kinda diluted, because they've been sliced hyperfine. Wouldn't you rather be "the preeminent producer of Shoe-Slap HyperPunk Shibuya-by-way-of-Baghdad Grunge Disco!" than "A decent enough Techno composer"? You show me a playlist of "techno" I've never seen before, I have a general idea what I'm in for. You tell me about "future bass", I have no clue. Some of these genres seem more…

I can't see how you'd think niche subgenres are replaceable by "influencing artists", for even very niche subgenres don't tend to gravitate around a single artist as you imply. Niche, and at first glance similar stuff like future bass, future funk and kawaii future bass are still easy to tell apart and have many artists producing original sounds that people still associate to the genre.

I don't understand your point in the end either, but it feels like you're trying to project anger onto other people. Do you feel angry that electronic music genres are not as easy to understand as you hoped and are trying to rationalize this as people coming up with random genres for publicity? Try to think of clear, obvious examples that should validate your rationalization, if it is more than just that then you'll easily be able to come up with a few without reaching for a search engine.

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by ali_m »

ebiester wrote: post #71
MattRix wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone who thinks that electronic music is “done” should listen to Iglooghost. Most fresh and unique music I’ve heard in a long time. It sounds like it was made by aliens (while still beinhg quite catchy and listenable, IMO).

To my ears, Iglooghost sounds like an extension of hyperpop. Listen to "Super Ink Burst" after "Immaterial" by Sophie.

The hyperactive, glossy aesthetic is definitely similar, although I'd place Iglooghost closer to hip-hop/grime (e.g. "White Gum"). Sophie sounds more like a mutated version of chart pop music.

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by pgt »

Feature request: let me see the song details of the song playing so I can find it on Spotify, e.g. Brazilian Tech House is cool.

Request #2: change the address bar when I click on a genre so I can share the link of a particular style.

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by sorghum »

superjan wrote: post #28

This site and the spotify playlists that it makes, has rekindled my interest in music after being dormant for more than a decade. Never expected that computer generated playlists could be good. Highly recommended.

I’ve been a huge fan of this project for a while and have some tips:

- The Spotify playlists all update automatically (usually weekly) so it’s worth following genres you like.

- Don’t miss the Pulse and Edge playlists linked at the top of most genre pages! Both are based on the listening activity of fans of the genre, with Pulse focusing on currently popular music and Edge on lesser-known artists.

- Smarter Playlists (http://smarterplaylists.playlistmachinery.com/) is a visual environment for building programmatic playlists using Spotify API calls. I use the Pulse and Edge playlists to make my own “Release Radar”-style playlists focused on specific genres, sorted to show the newest and least popular music first.

I’ve also been tinkering on a little handheld ESP32 Spotify remote that includes the genre and country playlists from here. It’s handy to use with a smart speaker to browse music when you don’t know what you want to hear.

Demo video: https://twitter.com/sorghum/status/1317623432012472320

Repo: https://github.com/quadule/knobby

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by pastech »

monkpit wrote: post #76
robbiemitchell wrote: post #74

This site was such an eye opener for me when I found it a couple years ago. I had always wondered about this weird genre of electronic music I liked to listen to when working and create in my spare time, and it turns out to be called "Wave".

Glad to see someone mentioning Wave! I have had a Wave playlist created for a while now without knowing it was even a genre. Then, I googled one of the songs and found out that Øfdream died, and discovered the references to the genre name during that research. Feels bad.

I used to watch livestreams of Øfdream making his music. Me and my friends felt close to him at the time because there wasn't a lot of viewers and we could easily talk. Feels bad indeed.

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by Slow_Hand »

svantana wrote: post #46
samatman wrote: post #26

This means I have to pitch Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music. https://music.ishkur.com Recently updated, it's a comprehensive history and map of electronic music. It's been around since 2000, played a big role in my life. Highly recommended.

It's interesting that the newest genre on there is trap from 2010. I'm trying to think of newer styles, the only one I can come up with is the so-called "hyperpop" by PC Music, Sophie and 100 gecs. But that's been around since 2012 or so. I'm guessing it's a combination of factors: 1) Playlist culture negates the need for a clear taxonomy of music 2) It takes a few years of hindsight to recognize what is a real genre…

That's a big lol at any form of music being "done". How and when would you judge something as broad as a musical style to be "done"?

In your opinion, if most of the "interesting permutations have been tried" what innovations would it take for a new genre/style to develop and broaden the scope of what can be expressed?

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