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Move Slow and Make Things

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Re: Move Slow and Make Things

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Post by lupire »

marcosdumay wrote: post #80
TeMPOraL wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's possible "AI" may be just a pretext to sell mass-made junk and pretend it is adjusted to each individual. It's also an internal distraction. They'd achieve something much closer to what they promise if they just threw some old-school regression analysis at the problem. But that's not cool these days, plus it's hard to relabel as AI even for the marketroids these days, and would involve actual work :). This app…

What problem is there to apply regression at? You get the measures, and make the cloths fit to those measures. If there is any measure missing, you can't just go and guess it, because you are not fitting a population. Talk about distraction...

People probably have a measurable bias in self-measurement, on average.

Re: Move Slow and Make Things

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Post by minikites »

bambax wrote: post #24
fxtentacle wrote: post #21

I know this is supposed to be a joke, but I feel like it's too close to reality to be funny. I recently ordered a custom tailored set of shirt, trousers, and belt. Their site was bragging about their great AI technology, but sadly I didn't notice that red flag early enough. The results were nothing short of disastrous. I sent in my measurements and they sent me a trouser with wrong measurements and a postcard that sa…

> I sent in my measurements and they sent me a trouser with wrong measurements and a postcard that said that they adjusted my measurements with AI for a better fit That is nothing short of hilarious. The machine knows best! Who are you, human, to pretend you are able to measure yourself?! > AI for memorizing generic trends It's possible "AI" may be just a pretext to sell mass-made junk and pretend it is adjusted to e…

>Who are you, human, to pretend you are able to measure yourself?!

A lot of people do not in fact know how to measure themselves properly for clothes (many people measure the wrong part of their body for the "waist"). Perhaps even more people think they're a certain size, but have never actually measured themselves, they just go by the measurements on clothes they already own, which are frequently "vanity sized" to make people feel better. I don't envy solving this problem between two sets of users: people who actually have the correct measurements and people who believe strongly that they do, but are quite wrong. Imagine how far off you would be if you went by your Old Navy pants: https://flowingdata.com/2010/09/30/advertised-vs-actual-wais...

Re: Move Slow and Make Things

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Post by crocsarecool »

minikites wrote: post #82
bambax wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I sent in my measurements and they sent me a trouser with wrong measurements and a postcard that said that they adjusted my measurements with AI for a better fit That is nothing short of hilarious. The machine knows best! Who are you, human, to pretend you are able to measure yourself?! > AI for memorizing generic trends It's possible "AI" may be just a pretext to sell mass-made junk and pretend it is adjusted to e…

>Who are you, human, to pretend you are able to measure yourself?! A lot of people do not in fact know how to measure themselves properly for clothes (many people measure the wrong part of their body for the "waist"). Perhaps even more people think they're a certain size, but have never actually measured themselves, they just go by the measurements on clothes they already own, which are frequently "vanity sized" to m…

You’re right! I sew infrequently as a hobby. I always thought my waist was just above my hips. When it comes to sewing, it’s actually closer to my belly button.

The size of the clothes also need to account for the fabric type. If it stretches x%, then you’ll want to maybe make it smaller, so it stretches to fit, or it will look frumpy. If the fabric doesn’t stretch at all, you’ll need to make sure there’s enough ease in the garment so you can bend and move your arms naturally.

Re: Move Slow and Make Things

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Post by rectang »

"Move slow and make things" seems like a credo for developer-run Open Source software projects. The software ships when it is ready, not when a commercial entity needs it to.

For a tech business, "move slow and make things" can only be a joke. But for a developer collective, it can be real.

Re: Move Slow and Make Things

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Post by antoniuschan99 »

numpad0 wrote: post #33
bambax wrote: post #24

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> I sent in my measurements and they sent me a trouser with wrong measurements and a postcard that said that they adjusted my measurements with AI for a better fit That is nothing short of hilarious. The machine knows best! Who are you, human, to pretend you are able to measure yourself?! > AI for memorizing generic trends It's possible "AI" may be just a pretext to sell mass-made junk and pretend it is adjusted to e…

Something similar happened in Japan with Zozosuit, they tried to use 3D reconstruction from smartphone camera for basically two piece business suits in $399, and the end result resembled texture file for your body in ugliest posture stitched together. Maybe it could be considered class of fallacy, a kind that one would say the most popular choice of integers between 1 and 2 is 1.5000001.

They announced the release of v2 (might not be available yet though) the first one was a disaster.

Was excited to see how the pants and shirts fit (on the site it looked awesome, but then the actual user reviews on some were so bad lol)

Also, the founder is the Japanese guy going to the moon.

Re: Move Slow and Make Things

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Post by Sodaware »

systemvoltage wrote: post #37
hardwaresofton wrote: post #26

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There are two areas of technology I avoid these days -- blockchain and AI. It may very well be to my own detriment (there is a lot of promise in either) but fortunately there are lots of interesting problems outside these areas and I can just treat the mention of either of those topics as red flags. That said, I want to note that I have had good results with Stitchfix but that was due to entering professionally-taken…

Add Quantum to the list.

My new startup uses machine learning built on Quantum Blockchain technology (patent pending).

I'll take my VC money now, please.

Re: Move Slow and Make Things

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Post by plumsempy »

fxtentacle wrote: post #21

I know this is supposed to be a joke, but I feel like it's too close to reality to be funny. I recently ordered a custom tailored set of shirt, trousers, and belt. Their site was bragging about their great AI technology, but sadly I didn't notice that red flag early enough. The results were nothing short of disastrous. I sent in my measurements and they sent me a trouser with wrong measurements and a postcard that sa…

I had a similar problem with StitchFix way back when; after finding out about my profession they truly pigeonholed me into a generic software engineer's fashion, almost caricature-esque.

I switched to Bombfell and I had been very happy until my cancellation.(canceled cause I wanted to explore fashion myself)

Re: Move Slow and Make Things

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Post by [deleted] »

fxtentacle wrote: post #21

I know this is supposed to be a joke, but I feel like it's too close to reality to be funny. I recently ordered a custom tailored set of shirt, trousers, and belt. Their site was bragging about their great AI technology, but sadly I didn't notice that red flag early enough. The results were nothing short of disastrous. I sent in my measurements and they sent me a trouser with wrong measurements and a postcard that sa…

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Re: Move Slow and Make Things

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Post by bachmeier »

kd0amg wrote: post #73
sumtechguy wrote: post #64

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Oh good I am not the only one. Direct measurement would produce the best result here. Not a guess that AI has with 83% confidence level. I usually find a tailor and buy something from them and in the process they will give me all the measurements for everything else.

My guess would be their system decided OP's measurements were unrealistic and adjusted them towards their more "typical" body shape.

I thought that at first, but it doesn't make any sense, because:

You don't have any way to know which of the measurements is wrong.

You don't know what correction to apply. The best you can do is shrink along one or more of the dimensions in the direction of a mean of something, which may or may not be relevant to that customer. In return you intentionally mess up the orders of many customers, wasting their time in the process.

Re: Move Slow and Make Things

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Post by DoreenMichele »

lloeki wrote: post #14
solarmist wrote: post #3

I’m sad this is an April fools joke because a lot of the sentiment rings true and I love the slogan “move slow and make things.” Artisans make beautiful things and software artisans make beautiful software, but it’s hard to do it and still be a viable business. And artisans moving slowly isn’t arbitrary. They move slow on the things that matter. The things that shine when attention was paid to the details.

The best jokes carry a message and use humour as a vessel, challenging preconceptions in a lighthearted way. I chose to take this April’s fool that way.

Thank you for this.

I "move slow and make things" in some sense. I will endeavor to use this as a jumping off point for something constructive rather than leaving a pointless whiney comment about how the world will never understand or appreciate me.

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