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Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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From the linked page:

> In 2012 RMS was added to the GCC Steering Committee web page based on his role in the GNU Project, though his role as a member of the Steering Committee has been ambiguous and he was not a member of the Steering Committee when EGCS became GCC

In this context, the HN title above is somewhat misleading.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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post #3

Already GPLv3 infected.... But fun-fact: >The GCC Steering Committee is committed to providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all, regardless of gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disabilities, neurodiversity, physical appearance, body size, ethnicity, nationality, race, age, religion, or similar personal characteristics.

Sounds like GCC is going to go down the same path as the Gnome Foundation, focusing on pursuing a political agenda at the expense of developing quality software.

GNU is a political agenda. Developing software is just a means of advancing it.

The change here isn't that the organization is becoming political, it's that the organization's politics are becoming increasingly intersectional.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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post #3

Already GPLv3 infected.... But fun-fact: >The GCC Steering Committee is committed to providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all, regardless of gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disabilities, neurodiversity, physical appearance, body size, ethnicity, nationality, race, age, religion, or similar personal characteristics.

Sounds like GCC is going to go down the same path as the Gnome Foundation, focusing on pursuing a political agenda at the expense of developing quality software.

In a couple of decades we will be back to public domain and shareware software models, while a couple of people will get some money selling books and conference talks about the golden age of FOSS.

It is bound to happen to any movement that outgrowns its grassroots, while those that achieve their positions thanks to the movement betray it.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like GCC is going to go down the same path as the Gnome Foundation, focusing on pursuing a political agenda at the expense of developing quality software.

Amazing that you don't understand that GCC and Gnome are profoundly political organizations.

They were always political but now they're engaging in politics orthogonal to their stated goal.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds like GCC is going to go down the same path as the Gnome Foundation, focusing on pursuing a political agenda at the expense of developing quality software.

Ah yes, because welcoming all regardless of irrelevant background details precludes quality software.

you don't seen to realize the irony that under the appearance of "being welcoming", those committees are only welcoming to whoever complies with their political agenda.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazing that you don't understand that GCC and Gnome are profoundly political organizations.

They were always political but now they're engaging in politics orthogonal to their stated goal.

How so? Surely you just mean politics the you don't agree with.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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The followups are insightful. Eg. this one: https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-March/235183.html

> Porting CLANG would have been easier (to some extent) BUT my choice was political and Stallman in the Steering Committee is a long term warranty that GCC development will not steer away from the Free Software conception that I know, betraying my trust.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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post #3

Already GPLv3 infected.... But fun-fact: >The GCC Steering Committee is committed to providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all, regardless of gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disabilities, neurodiversity, physical appearance, body size, ethnicity, nationality, race, age, religion, or similar personal characteristics.

I think it’s interesting to see this list get longer year by year. It’s good to have an ideal of welcoming, but curious to me what particular characteristics are “list worthy.” It reminds me when those people raise their hand in a talk and say “what about security” and aren’t happy until you add the word “security.” Comically, even if nothing in the content is changed. Just adding the word makes them happy and I foun…

In some ways, it doesn't get longer. I've never seen a list that was well-aligned with US employment anti-discrimination law. There's always a handful of categories that are missing.

Re: Richard Stallman Removed from the GCC Steering Committee

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post #14

Another reminder that no-one is irreplaceable. I'm sure GCC will continue without him, one way or another.

Technically yes, but in his case there is a level of genius and dedication that is beyond expert level. There is also a good chance that potential replacements aren’t available to take on the responsibilities.
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