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Svalbard's Alcohol Quotas

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Re: Svalbard's Alcohol Quotas

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I find the law that requires you to carry a firearm more interesting: https://www.sysselmannen.no/en/weapon/ Being a remote town in the far north with unusual day/nighy cycles does require some strange laws to keep everyone safe and sane I guess. Also, Tom has been there ofc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFJ-ze2-SqU

> I find the law that requires you to carry a firearm more interesting That's not quite what it says. Firearms are only a recommendation. > Due to the polar bear threat in Svalbard, anyone travelling outside the settlements must be equipped with appropriate means of frightening and chasing off polar bears. > The Governor of Svalbard also recommends having firearms with you.

Interesting. When I visited a few years ago I was told that you were required to carry a rifle outside of town to protect from the bears and that a handgun wouldn't be sufficient to protect from a mature polar bear. I guess the guide exaggerated.

Re: Svalbard's Alcohol Quotas

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Anyone know the reasoning? I'm assuming its attempting to prevent alcoholism? I know Greenland and Iceland (to a lesser extent) suffer somewhat perhaps due to the light and isolation being contributing factors.

Some of the hardest drinkers I know are Finns. I'm not sure exactly why that would be, i.e. why Finns might drink more than Norwegians or Swedes, but this has been my observation. Keep in mind, n=low (I'd have to think about it, and I don't want to expend the brainpower right now).

Re: Svalbard's Alcohol Quotas

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> I find the law that requires you to carry a firearm more interesting That's not quite what it says. Firearms are only a recommendation. > Due to the polar bear threat in Svalbard, anyone travelling outside the settlements must be equipped with appropriate means of frightening and chasing off polar bears. > The Governor of Svalbard also recommends having firearms with you.

There are levels of risk I am not prepared to accept. I'll carry an assault shotgun, an assault rifle, and a dedicated ammunition-hauling dog with me if I go outside a town in Svalbard.

What is an assault shotgun, one painted black and with a bayonet mounted? I think you can have something like this in Fallout.

Re: Svalbard's Alcohol Quotas

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> I find the law that requires you to carry a firearm more interesting That's not quite what it says. Firearms are only a recommendation. > Due to the polar bear threat in Svalbard, anyone travelling outside the settlements must be equipped with appropriate means of frightening and chasing off polar bears. > The Governor of Svalbard also recommends having firearms with you.

There are levels of risk I am not prepared to accept. I'll carry an assault shotgun, an assault rifle, and a dedicated ammunition-hauling dog with me if I go outside a town in Svalbard.

I hope not: although, say, an M16 is a good weapon, you'd do better with something chambered in a full rifle cartridge (e.g. .30-06) against a bear rather than an intermediate cartridge

Re: Svalbard's Alcohol Quotas

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There are levels of risk I am not prepared to accept. I'll carry an assault shotgun, an assault rifle, and a dedicated ammunition-hauling dog with me if I go outside a town in Svalbard.

What is an assault shotgun, one painted black and with a bayonet mounted? I think you can have something like this in Fallout.

SPAS-12, AA-12, or similar? Or maybe he's referring to one like the Ithica 37 with slam fire capabilities? The guy really just needs a M1 Garand.

Re: Svalbard's Alcohol Quotas

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> Private individuals resident in Svalbard must purchase their alcohol quota in Svalbard and are not able to import tax-free alcohol from the mainland to Svalbard. I doubt local shops have particularly good assortment to choose from, do they?

AFAIK Svalbard is weird in both immigration laws and a distinct tax structure from Norway. My guess is it has to do with tax avoidance schemes rather than consumption.

Svalbard's legal status is deeply weird. It's administered by Norway, but not subject to a lot of Norwegian law, and people from all Svalbard Treaty signatories including the US can legally rock up and work and stay as long as they like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Treaty

Re: Svalbard's Alcohol Quotas

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24 cans of beer? Depending on the size that's between 8 and 14 litres a month, about 1.8-3.2 litres a week. At 4% that's at most 13 UK units per week (assuming you buy large cans) -- guidelines are 14 units per week. For say 330ml cans of Tiger it's 8 units a week, that's not a lot for one person.

Maybe you are confusing the word "guideline" here with actual recommendation. You are not suppose to be drinking 14 units per week. You are not suppose to even be drinking every week. In any case you still as much light wine as you can reasonably consume. 2 bottles of liquor and half a bottle of fortified wine on top of your beer. If you consume even that much everyone month I'd be calling you an alcoholic.

Someone drinking an average of 6x 33ml cans of 4.3% beer a week would not be called an alcoholic in any normal conversation. That's 4.4 litres of alcohol a year - less than half the US intake (9.8l), less than Norway (7.5l) and would fit well in the bottom half of countries by alcohol intake.

The ability to drink other things (scotch, wine, etc) is irrelevant if you only drink beer.

Re: Svalbard's Alcohol Quotas

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> I find the law that requires you to carry a firearm more interesting That's not quite what it says. Firearms are only a recommendation. > Due to the polar bear threat in Svalbard, anyone travelling outside the settlements must be equipped with appropriate means of frightening and chasing off polar bears. > The Governor of Svalbard also recommends having firearms with you.

There are levels of risk I am not prepared to accept. I'll carry an assault shotgun, an assault rifle, and a dedicated ammunition-hauling dog with me if I go outside a town in Svalbard.

You can skip the dog. A polar bear can sprint at 40 km/h, so if you're attacked by one, you'll be lucky if you can squeeze off more than one or two shots.

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2 cans a beer a day would not be excessive by most standards, that would add up to 60 cans a month. 24 cans of beer consumed in one sitting would be excessive.

Is it really so common to drink alcohol every day?

There was a post here where having a cocktail after work every day (in NYC IIRC?) was mentioned, the consensus seemed to me like that is a normal amount while for me that would have been too much even when I was a student and could tolerate a lot more alcohol (of course, purely by amount I’d have made it up on the weekend).
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