Their campaign is about reaching out, eliciting a response, and then reveling in the emotional connection they've created with another anonymous soul across this tangled mass of copper and silicon.
In other words, for the lulz.
LulzSec: Why we do what we do
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#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
Funny that you use diamonds as an example, when the diamond market is one of the most rigged institutions on the planet. Your jeweler is always gouging you when you buy diamonds.
Just because a cartel exists somewhere in the supply chain doesn't mean I have to participate in the transaction or my perceived value of it is artificially inflated. The two caret ring was just hypothetical, but there are plenty men who value those rings more than the asking price, and their wives appreciate that. (at least the sensible ones do)
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#153"This is the lulz lizard era"
Yes it is. What the fuck is it? Nightowl would be more believable, and true.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
None of this addresses the DDoS attacks. I agree with you in regards to the SQL injections / URL parameters, but your post fails hard to defend Lulzsec's DDoSing of anybody.
On the XX century internet, that was true. But! On today's internet, consumer needs certain services on-line 24/7, and is hit hard if they are down. One's stock quotes, bank account, credit/debit card processor, ticket booth, office suite, and last but clearly not least, the daily fix of WoW. Hell, a lot of people can't even read or write any email without the WWW interface. Being vulnerable to DDoS is just as unexcu…
Okay, but the gunshot analogy applies here. If I want to, I can hire 24/7 bodyguards to prevent my being shot. If I'm a potentially high-profile target, then yes, you would expect me to spend resources to hire extra protection.
Most of the targets in this case are not critical services like bank accounts or ticket booths -- those companies DO spend the extra money on protection (more servers, in this case).
Let me ask; do you run a web business? Any website? Is it vulnurable to DDoS?
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
But, only one of them is the foundation of our society.
I'm not sure which one you think it is, but I sure hope it's the one that does it for fun. A society driven by preying on the weak for profit is far more distressing.
See: "Invisible Hand"
In economics, the invisible hand, also known as invisible hand of the market, is the term economists use to describe the self-regulating nature of the marketplace. This is a metaphor first coined by the economist Adam Smith in The Theory of Moral Sentiments... For Smith, the invisible hand was created by the conjunction of the forces of self-interest, competition, and supply and demand, which he noted as being capable of allocating resources in society.
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#156Might want to change the title to something like "LulzSec actually had a point after all." They do, too, an even better one than I expected. Not only are they making a point about how terrible security is ("Do you think every hacker announces everything they've hacked?"), but they've also called out the internet on its generally abysmal attention span. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd had this written on day zero.
That's not the most important thing I took away from the submitted link. To me, the important thing is that LulzSec says that it derives pleasure from causing harm to people -- like the people who used to add poison to bottles of Tylenol, package the Tylenol back up again and place it back on the supermarket shelf. Although they could be saying that to cover up their real agenda, most writers (and especially most wri…
Lets not overblow things. They don't kill random people, they carry out pranks which can cause emotional and maybe financial distress, that's all.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the XX century internet, that was true. But! On today's internet, consumer needs certain services on-line 24/7, and is hit hard if they are down. One's stock quotes, bank account, credit/debit card processor, ticket booth, office suite, and last but clearly not least, the daily fix of WoW. Hell, a lot of people can't even read or write any email without the WWW interface. Being vulnerable to DDoS is just as unexcu…
Okay, but the gunshot analogy applies here. If I want to, I can hire 24/7 bodyguards to prevent my being shot. If I'm a potentially high-profile target, then yes, you would expect me to spend resources to hire extra protection. Most of the targets in this case are not critical services like bank accounts or ticket booths -- those companies DO spend the extra money on protection (more servers, in this case). Let me as…
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#158Why is this text the first one from Anonymous et al. that doesn't move me, at all? They sound odd, using a “we” to include all ‘digital natives’ while I never heard anyone under 25 use “we” before; they mention (two girlfriend's) faces on MSN, but I never heard of a webcam on MSN; I never heard of anyone actually enjoying a show call it “we want our shot of entertainment”.
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#160>People who can make things work better within this rectangle have power over others; the whitehats who charge $10,000 for something we could teach you how to do over the course of a weekend, providing you aren't mentally disabled. This is a common complaint among blackhats: they see whitehats as being in the game for the money and taking advantage of the unenlightened as much as they [the blackhats] themselves do. I…
What corporation would ever trust a 'free' security consultant?