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Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by spoctrial »

svantana wrote: post #47
Nition wrote: post #45

Does anyone know how Spotify assigns the genre tags to artists? Looking up myself on this site shows me as under two main tags: "Folk Rock Italiano" and "SLC Indie" (which is apparently Salt Lake City). Although folk rock and indie are accurate, I'm neither Italian nor American.

For various reasons they are secretive about this, but the genre system is inherited from EchoNest which they acquired in 2014. EchoNest's main idea was to combine audio analysis with natural language processing and web scraping to categorize music. In fact the two founders were PhD's in each respective field. But nowadays I'm guessing they are utilizing their huge dataset of playlists to group artists under tags. Ob…

They are not that secretive, it's been written about several times. Long story short: a lot of it is still Glenn McDonald, the person behind everynoise, that was acquihired when they bought echonest.

Here are a few articles about it (there are several more): https://artists.spotify.com/blog/how-spotify-discovers-the-g... https://www.thefader.com/2020/12/02/escape-room-genre-spotif... https://www.thestar.com/entertainment/2016/01/14/meet-the-ma...

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by chrisweekly »

>"Every Noise at Once is an ongoing attempt at an algorithmically-generated, readability-adjusted scatter-plot of the musical genre-space, based on data tracked and analyzed for 5,304 genre-shaped distinctions by Spotify as of 2021-03-30."

This is kind of insanely great.

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by ddek »

svantana wrote: post #46
samatman wrote: post #26

This means I have to pitch Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music. https://music.ishkur.com Recently updated, it's a comprehensive history and map of electronic music. It's been around since 2000, played a big role in my life. Highly recommended.

It's interesting that the newest genre on there is trap from 2010. I'm trying to think of newer styles, the only one I can come up with is the so-called "hyperpop" by PC Music, Sophie and 100 gecs. But that's been around since 2012 or so. I'm guessing it's a combination of factors: 1) Playlist culture negates the need for a clear taxonomy of music 2) It takes a few years of hindsight to recognize what is a real genre…

> 3) Electronic music is "done": most interesting permutations of notes, rhythms and timbres have been tried already

Have you heard last week's release 'Promises' by Floating Points, Pharoah Sanders, and the LSO? I haven't heard anything like it before (although that might be me), and it completely blew me away.

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by ddek »

jvm_ wrote: post #6
kbenson wrote: post #2

I love when I encounter these sites and learn a name for some subgenre or quality of music that I enjoy. I've never really cared to really get into discovering and/or researching songs I like, I just accrete them over time as I hear something that speaks to me. Apparently quite a lot of artists I like fall under "Big Beat".

/r/listentothis is good for finding different genres, and usually a good song from that category as well.

If you're into most alt styles, /r/indieheads is pretty good too.

I quite like going on rym and playing whatever's on the front page, that's exposed me to many genres I'd have skipped otherwise.

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by MattRix »

svantana wrote: post #46
samatman wrote: post #26

This means I have to pitch Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music. https://music.ishkur.com Recently updated, it's a comprehensive history and map of electronic music. It's been around since 2000, played a big role in my life. Highly recommended.

It's interesting that the newest genre on there is trap from 2010. I'm trying to think of newer styles, the only one I can come up with is the so-called "hyperpop" by PC Music, Sophie and 100 gecs. But that's been around since 2012 or so. I'm guessing it's a combination of factors: 1) Playlist culture negates the need for a clear taxonomy of music 2) It takes a few years of hindsight to recognize what is a real genre…

Anyone who thinks that electronic music is “done” should listen to Iglooghost. Most fresh and unique music I’ve heard in a long time. It sounds like it was made by aliens (while still beinhg quite catchy and listenable, IMO).

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by michaelcampbell »

lifeformed wrote: post #16

I misread the url and thought this was gonna be an April Fool's joke from mynoise.net where it has a new noise generator that plays every sound at once.

God I love that site. It's almost got TOO much; every time I go there are a dozen "new" ones to try.

Re: Every Noise at Once

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Post by jerf »

svantana wrote: post #46
samatman wrote: post #26

This means I have to pitch Ishkur's Guide to Electronic Music. https://music.ishkur.com Recently updated, it's a comprehensive history and map of electronic music. It's been around since 2000, played a big role in my life. Highly recommended.

It's interesting that the newest genre on there is trap from 2010. I'm trying to think of newer styles, the only one I can come up with is the so-called "hyperpop" by PC Music, Sophie and 100 gecs. But that's been around since 2012 or so. I'm guessing it's a combination of factors: 1) Playlist culture negates the need for a clear taxonomy of music 2) It takes a few years of hindsight to recognize what is a real genre…

My guess is that genres have become kinda diluted, because they've been sliced hyperfine. Wouldn't you rather be "the preeminent producer of Shoe-Slap HyperPunk Shibuya-by-way-of-Baghdad Grunge Disco!" than "A decent enough Techno composer"?

You show me a playlist of "techno" I've never seen before, I have a general idea what I'm in for. You tell me about "future bass", I have no clue.

Some of these genres seem more like they're really about some specific artist rather than a "genre", that is, the "genre" means something more like "I'm inspired by this artist or small number of artists" more than anything that ought to be called a "genre", if genre is to have any meaning.

... and as evidence... consult your own emotional reaction. Does it feel like I just "attacked" your favorite genre? That's actually my point; "genre" somehow carries cache with it that "being inspired by" doesn't. So of course there's a rush to declare new genres at a breakneck speed.

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