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Re: MS Azure down: An emerging issue is being investigated

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Post by paulryanrogers »

iJohnDoe wrote: post #109
paulryanrogers wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sure, you can screw up on prem. But if you are only marginally competent spinning up services/servers/clusters takes but an instant, it's dirt cheap, and vastly more reliable. Do you mean on premise you can spin up virtual servers and virtual clusters instantly? Because I imagine you'd have to order, physically rack, and setup the bare metal if one doesn't have the capacity already.

Exactly. Sure, my cousin Earl can spin up a container and some VMs. Will they be secure? Probably not. Will they be backed up and offsite failover? Probably not. Will they get ransomware at some point? Probably. There is no need to make blanket statements about on-prem vs. cloud. You have to weigh the pros and cons as any other business decision. It’s about controlling you’re own destiny with either decision.

Not trying to make blanket statements. I'm actually a fan of on prem when load and reliability needs fit.

Re: MS Azure down: An emerging issue is being investigated

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Post by petre »

paulryanrogers wrote: post #111
iJohnDoe wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. Sure, my cousin Earl can spin up a container and some VMs. Will they be secure? Probably not. Will they be backed up and offsite failover? Probably not. Will they get ransomware at some point? Probably. There is no need to make blanket statements about on-prem vs. cloud. You have to weigh the pros and cons as any other business decision. It’s about controlling you’re own destiny with either decision.

Not trying to make blanket statements. I'm actually a fan of on prem when load and reliability needs fit.

You can use Proxmox. We have an on prem cluster. It works reliably as long as your hardware works. It does LXC, VMs, migrations to another node, snasphots, ZFS. We hand an outage when a router died. Surprisingly a bare metal FreeBSD server directly connected to the public network was still up when the VMs were unacessible.

Re: MS Azure down: An emerging issue is being investigated

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Post by electro_blah »

smitop wrote: post #34

Looks like this took down the national emergency alert system in Canada. I'm registered as an alert LMD (last mile distributor), and Pelmorex (corporation running the system) just emailed me to say "Please note that currently there is an unexpected significant outage on Microsoft Azure that is affecting the availability of the NAADS system and other clients globally. The NAAD System feeds are currently not accessible…

lol they must have paid someone a shitty salary for someone to come up with a such a crappy system.

Re: MS Azure down: An emerging issue is being investigated

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Post by [deleted] »

fartcannon wrote: post #42
smitop wrote: post #34

Looks like this took down the national emergency alert system in Canada. I'm registered as an alert LMD (last mile distributor), and Pelmorex (corporation running the system) just emailed me to say "Please note that currently there is an unexpected significant outage on Microsoft Azure that is affecting the availability of the NAADS system and other clients globally. The NAAD System feeds are currently not accessible…

And here it is, the main problem with outsourcing critical infrastructure. Remote server providers like Microsoft Azure should at most be used as twins/redundant systems to a locally managed system. Governments of the world: pay your IT people more money to prevent brain drain.

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Re: MS Azure down: An emerging issue is being investigated

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Post by TedShiller »

king_magic wrote: post #3

bing.com, status.azure.com, status2.azure.com - all down. Can't sign into portal.azure.com, can't hit Azure File Shares, etc. The last outage a few days ago was enough for my company to up and move most of our stuff to AWS. This new outage is enough for us to fully migrate away from Azure. What a cluster.

It’s Microsoft.

Re: MS Azure down: An emerging issue is being investigated

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Post by ridethebike »

semicolon_storm wrote: post #27
dustymcp wrote: post #11

Just me or azure been really unstable lately atleast here in europe?

Major worldwide outages for AAD, CosmosDB, and now DNS in just the past few months so it’s definitely not just you. Maybe Microsoft should invest less in their shiny new AI/ML platforms and more into stability of their core services.

Move to cloud they said. It will be more reliable they said.

But seriously, as inflexible, painful and tedious to support our on-prem infra last time we had critical outage was ~3 years ago, for like an hour. We've almost finished migration to azure. I hope this outage and AD outage earlier this month are outliers.

Re: MS Azure down: An emerging issue is being investigated

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Post by grey-area »

aynsof wrote: post #48
fartcannon wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And here it is, the main problem with outsourcing critical infrastructure. Remote server providers like Microsoft Azure should at most be used as twins/redundant systems to a locally managed system. Governments of the world: pay your IT people more money to prevent brain drain.

Do you think locally managed systems are immune to outages? Or that governments are capable of resourcing their teams sufficiently to do a better job at availability than Microsoft, Google, or Amazon?

On the evidence, yes. Cloud providers frequently have outages lasting multiple hours affecting millions of clients. Some governments manage to run critical servers without downtime.

Re: MS Azure down: An emerging issue is being investigated

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Post by libraryatnight »

roody15 wrote: post #89
thetinguy wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The major cloud providers all aim for 99.999% uptime. Keep in mind that 99.99% uptime means ~4 minutes of downtime a month. I think there are other reasons that banks may not want or have the ability to run their core services on the cloud.

Aim.. Google for sure doesn’t come close to this for uptime. Microsoft as well.

Despite what their status pages would have you believe ;)

Re: MS Azure down: An emerging issue is being investigated

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Post by abledon »

michaelmcmillan wrote: post #53

Ironically Azure tweeted a guide on how to protect your DNS against unwanted changes only 3 hours before everything blew up: https://twitter.com/AzureSupport/status/1377697274378260489 You can't make this stuff up.

IMO thats a home-run april fools joke
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