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UK reports 25 fresh cases of thrombosis associated with the AstraZeneca vaccine

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Re: UK reports 25 fresh cases of thrombosis associated with the AstraZeneca vaccine

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I wish this article reported the denominator. 25 out of how many doses administered? What is the baseline % of people who should have gotten thrombosis naturally in the last 3 months (since doses started being administered).

Perhaps the answer is that this is a real risk. But the public should be taught to think in relativistic ways. It's not that hard if every newspaper always did it as reinforcement.

Re: UK reports 25 fresh cases of thrombosis associated with the AstraZeneca vaccine

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Egads, what a terrible source. Can the mods please replace that with (say) the FT?

https://www.ft.com/content/2e52a5b0-29b9-4c7e-8cfb-97bf8edea...

The actual press release is here, but the details of the new reports are buried far down the page:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid...

Re: UK reports 25 fresh cases of thrombosis associated with the AstraZeneca vaccine

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Egads, what a terrible source. Can the mods please replace that with (say) the FT? https://www.ft.com/content/2e52a5b0-29b9-4c7e-8cfb-97bf8edea... The actual press release is here, but the details of the new reports are buried far down the page: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid...

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Re: UK reports 25 fresh cases of thrombosis associated with the AstraZeneca vaccine

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post #2

I wish this article reported the denominator. 25 out of how many doses administered? What is the baseline % of people who should have gotten thrombosis naturally in the last 3 months (since doses started being administered). Perhaps the answer is that this is a real risk. But the public should be taught to think in relativistic ways. It's not that hard if every newspaper always did it as reinforcement.

"In Norway, health officials have reported at least 6 of Jab’s 120,000 recipients of such cases, four of whom died.

In Germany, 31 cases have been reported after 2.7 million vaccinations, 29 of which are women aged 20-63 and two men aged 36-57. Nine of them have died.

By March 24, MHRA had received 22 reports of CVST and 8 reports of other thrombotic events with low platelets out of a total of 18.1 million doses of AstraZeneca vaccine. This corresponds to approximately one case for every 600,000 recipients."

Re: UK reports 25 fresh cases of thrombosis associated with the AstraZeneca vaccine

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Egads, what a terrible source. Can the mods please replace that with (say) the FT? https://www.ft.com/content/2e52a5b0-29b9-4c7e-8cfb-97bf8edea... The actual press release is here, but the details of the new reports are buried far down the page: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid...

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Re: UK reports 25 fresh cases of thrombosis associated with the AstraZeneca vaccine

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I wish this article reported the denominator. 25 out of how many doses administered? What is the baseline % of people who should have gotten thrombosis naturally in the last 3 months (since doses started being administered). Perhaps the answer is that this is a real risk. But the public should be taught to think in relativistic ways. It's not that hard if every newspaper always did it as reinforcement.

It’s 8 incidents out of 18.1 million vaccinations according to the UK government’s own report. The prevalence generally is estimated to be between 2 and 5 per million per year [1] in a 2016 paper.

Given the population prevalence, you’d expect 36 to 100 incidents in the vaccinated population. Yet they found only 8. I’m not qualified to say whether that means anything.

[1] https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/STROKEAHA.116.0...

Re: UK reports 25 fresh cases of thrombosis associated with the AstraZeneca vaccine

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I wish this article reported the denominator. 25 out of how many doses administered? What is the baseline % of people who should have gotten thrombosis naturally in the last 3 months (since doses started being administered). Perhaps the answer is that this is a real risk. But the public should be taught to think in relativistic ways. It's not that hard if every newspaper always did it as reinforcement.

It’s 8 incidents out of 18.1 million vaccinations according to the UK government’s own report. The prevalence generally is estimated to be between 2 and 5 per million per year [1] in a 2016 paper. Given the population prevalence, you’d expect 36 to 100 incidents in the vaccinated population. Yet they found only 8. I’m not qualified to say whether that means anything. [1] https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/S…

Correcting myself: the UK reported 22 incidents of CVST and 8 of other clotting events.

Re: UK reports 25 fresh cases of thrombosis associated with the AstraZeneca vaccine

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I wish this article reported the denominator. 25 out of how many doses administered? What is the baseline % of people who should have gotten thrombosis naturally in the last 3 months (since doses started being administered). Perhaps the answer is that this is a real risk. But the public should be taught to think in relativistic ways. It's not that hard if every newspaper always did it as reinforcement.

"In Norway, health officials have reported at least 6 of Jab’s 120,000 recipients of such cases, four of whom died. In Germany, 31 cases have been reported after 2.7 million vaccinations, 29 of which are women aged 20-63 and two men aged 36-57. Nine of them have died. By March 24, MHRA had received 22 reports of CVST and 8 reports of other thrombotic events with low platelets out of a total of 18.1 million doses of A…

Those numbers appear lower than the baseline prevalence of venous thrombosis in the general population [1]. Maybe the vaccine is protective?

https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/dvt/data.html

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