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Re: Clubhouse clones are coming

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Post by olivermarks » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 6:39 PM UTC

twobitshifter wrote: post #109

olivermarks wrote: post #2

Brevity was what originally made Twitter popular after the first wave of blogging. I don't think the vogue for blowhards talking at length in 'rooms' is going to last long, whether within Clubhouse or any of the other me-too cloned feature additions in other social media platforms.

All of the bloviating reminded me of business school classes. You want to go there to learn, but there’s a few people who just want to hear themselves talk who end up wasting your time.

Yes and - ism one up manship is never going to go away sadly

Re: Clubhouse clones are coming

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Post by anoraca » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 7:05 PM UTC

nstart wrote: post #58

This seems like an ok time to point to Shaan's twitter thread on why he believes clubhouse will fail [1]. Nothing is guaranteed of course, but it is an entertaining read. It's designed to be a bit over the top, silicon valley esque story style. But the person who wrote it, is writing from their experience of actually launching, and burning out in an attempt to build a similar company which makes the thread that much…

I think that it's closed so that you are forced to receive an invitation to join, and to send an invitation you have to give the app access to your phone's contacts (at least on iOS when I looked at it, quickly uninstalled). There were a number of dark patterns utilized to try and get elevated permissions and access to contacts.

Re: Clubhouse clones are coming

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Post by vmception » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 7:23 PM UTC

ausbah wrote: post #49

I'm still not convinced that clubhouse is anything more than real time podcasts saturated with linkedin influencers

It wasn’t 6 months ago, but it is now.

Re: Clubhouse clones are coming

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Post by shafyy » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 8:06 PM UTC

password321 wrote: post #87

shafyy wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and for the "celeb" talks like that time Elon Musk was on, it was on YouTube 5min after. So why should I download an app and be there at that exact time (which would have been in the middle of the night for me) when I can just listen to the thing on YouTube later at my own convenience?

You could make this exact argument with Twitch streams yet it is extremely popular. I do believe watching/listening to it live with others does add to the experience. Also AFAIK there is a chance for the audience to actually join in on some of the conversations.

I don't watch Twitch or other live streams often, but my understanding is that:

1) It's a lot more interactive, and

2) A lot of streamers stream multiple hours each day, and it's a completely different form of media than Clubhouse, since streamers usually play a game, which in itself is much more interesting than listening to two dudes talk for 5 hours.

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Post by rrdharan » Fri, Apr 02, 2021, 12:33 PM UTC

corybrown wrote: post #84

rrdharan wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except Dropbox succeeded as a separate company by most reasonable metrics. The Jobs offer was $1B IIRC; they’ve got a $12B market cap and some reasonable ROI far beyond the acquisition offer by now (remember even the IPO investors - non-retail - bought in at $21). Whether the total ROI exceeds the growth / rate of return in AAPL stock during that time, well, maybe not? But it would have been a cash transaction...

Jobs offered to buy them in 2009 when AAPL stock was around $5 a share (obviously a lot of splits happened), compared to today's price of over $120 so that $1B in stock would be around $25B, more than double Dropbox market cap

But like I said, it would have almost certainly been a cash transaction, right? So yeah, engineers who were retained would have done better with their AAPL stock grants, but that’s not really the measure to compare is it?

By that logic most companies should have dissolved and simply bought AAPL shares with their proceeds (I mean that’s true up to some limit but it falls apart in some macroeconomic sense obviously).