LulzSec: Why we do what we do

Post by sradnidge » Fri, Jun 17, 2011, 5:59 PM UTC

moxiemk1 wrote: post #74

dclowd9901 wrote: post #54

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It's always been posited that, at some point, the Internet would create a generation of pseudo-sociopaths who are so disconnected from fellow human beings, they lack empathy, much the same as someone with the clinical diagnosis. Mayhap that time has arrived.

Just like with violent video games, the internet doesn't make people feel disconnected, or turn them into sociopaths. It enables people who would rather be disconnected to disconnect themselves, and gives sociopaths the ability to do far more. The internet doesn't create people without empathy, it reveals that deep down, a lot of humanity didn't have it to begin with. The way society is starting to structure itself,…

Post by yters » Fri, Jun 17, 2011, 6:00 PM UTC

moxiemk1 wrote: post #74

dclowd9901 wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's always been posited that, at some point, the Internet would create a generation of pseudo-sociopaths who are so disconnected from fellow human beings, they lack empathy, much the same as someone with the clinical diagnosis. Mayhap that time has arrived.

Just like with violent video games, the internet doesn't make people feel disconnected, or turn them into sociopaths. It enables people who would rather be disconnected to disconnect themselves, and gives sociopaths the ability to do far more. The internet doesn't create people without empathy, it reveals that deep down, a lot of humanity didn't have it to begin with. The way society is starting to structure itself,…

Post by mkr-hn » Fri, Jun 17, 2011, 6:02 PM UTC

someone13 wrote: post #32

mentat wrote: post #13

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There is a need to develop systems that aren't subject to DDOS (at least the current generation). It used to be very easy to DOS anyone's network stack (think SYN flooding). If people hadn't shown that it was an issue by doing it, the Internet would still be running on stacks that were trivial to undermine many different ways. Saying that something is easy to do and has a tremendous impact is an engineering problem s…

See, is there a practical way to "fix" the problem behind a DDOS? More specific attacks (slowloris, SYN flood, ping of death, smurf, and a laundry list of other stuff) can be fixed by simply introducing changes to the infrastructure that makes such things possible. But a DDOS attack is, at heart, nothing more than a brute-force attack - flooding a single website / IP with so much traffic that it can't respond. No mat…

Post by darklajid » Fri, Jun 17, 2011, 6:09 PM UTC

DannoHung wrote: post #95

ZeSmith wrote: post #82

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Still does not make it okay.

What if you're a second-generation schaudenfreudist? I take pleasure in the pain of those that take pleasure in the pain of others.

Post by rgbrgb » Fri, Jun 17, 2011, 6:12 PM UTC

dexen wrote: post #109

trotsky wrote: post #104

OK, so for the remaining 3 people out there who were pathologically not paying attention, computer hacking is easy. The state of computer security is poor. Lulzsec deserves a medal and a chest to pin it on for breaking this news to all of the people who don't have a facebook account, have never been on irc, didn't see the movie wargames, don't know anyone who plays world of warcraft, has never read the new york times…

The gunshot analogy fails hard. LulzSec pre-empted at least half of it, by stressing how harm occurs quietly all the time. Data gets stolen or destroyed and we just don't know it. Unlike gunshot wound, where a person lands in a hospital, or morgue, or goes missing, data can be, and indeed is, copied quietly. Of gunshots, people are informed most of the time; of security breaches, barely ever. Cops investigate most gu…