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Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by regularfry »

kroltan wrote: post #264
regularfry wrote: post #246

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It's to do with pockets, at a guess. There's no penalty for expanding in the height and width dimensions up to the limits of a back pocket, which is comparatively huge. If you expand in the depth direction, the pocket can't expand far before it starts to feel uncomfortable, particularly if you sit on it.

It might be local clothing design, but I haven't seen a back pocket so low that you could actually sit on a phone. The geometry works out that the pocket is halfway from your back and your leg, so when you sit the phone would be at a 45 degree angle. Half of it would be under compression from your weight in the horizontal direction, and the other would be in tension from the pocket pulling it into the vertical direct…

I didn't suggest it was a good place to put it, just that people do.

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Post by InitialLastName »

arghwhat wrote: post #77
dsr_ wrote: post #73

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Most people carry around several liters of blood inside them. It's surprisingly easy to get some out, even by accident. While it is undeniably more comfortable to program with a nice keyboard and big monitor, emergencies can demand that you work with what you have. Typing cat /tmp/accumulatedfiles | while read line ; do sed -i '/inner\;/outer\;/' can be rather frustrating without a real keyboard.

> Most people carry around several liters of blood inside them. Emphasis on “most”.

I really worry about the exceptions to that.

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by k_ »

Sodman wrote: post #261
k_ wrote: post #249

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Seems like we're looking for similar things. I am currently waiting for delivery of my Astro Slide [0] [0]: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/astro-slide-5g-transforme... which has android / linux dual boot. Not sure if performance are what you are looking for.

This looks much more like what I'm looking for alright! Doing some background research it looks like they had some issues with their chipset supplier and had to downgrade the chip a little, but performance benchmarks put it ~around the same place as my Pixel 5's current CPU, which I'd say is much more acceptable (if not totally cutting edge flagship-tier) for a phone in 2021! At $576 (Edit: now $621, looks like the e…

Not sure if that's still true, but a few months ago when I ordered mine early bird had always 0~3 in stock and they added some back the day after it sold out, every time. Check again tomorrow if you're interested but only at a discount.

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Post by danans »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #305
danans wrote: post #296

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> I have definitely used a remote shell session from my phone while on the subway. Out of necessity or just for fun/curiosity?

I have SSHed into a remote server from my phone out of necessity many, many times. When you get that e-mail on debian-security-announce that some package on one of your servers has just received a security update to fix some serious vulnerability, then ideally you install that update and reload the service right away, instead of putting it off for later.

Is this for a personal server or for a server that is being used by a paying client? If the latter, doesn't it make sense to have an oncall rotation with someone else on your team?

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Post by Mediterraneo10 »

danans wrote: post #314
Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #305

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I have SSHed into a remote server from my phone out of necessity many, many times. When you get that e-mail on debian-security-announce that some package on one of your servers has just received a security update to fix some serious vulnerability, then ideally you install that update and reload the service right away, instead of putting it off for later.

Is this for a personal server or for a server that is being used by a paying client? If the latter, doesn't it make sense to have an oncall rotation with someone else on your team?

Personal servers.

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Post by rchaud »

tifadg1 wrote: post #23

For english language, swipe typing coupled with autocorrect works astonishingly well. So much so that I use it regularly because of lazyness. What segment does the physical keyboard appeal to? Youngins were born and raised touching the screen, so it's archaic to them. Old timers are jaded at this point to either wait for their dream phone or buy any cheap crap. So who's the target for this 900 usd device?

Probably the people that bought the previous Android iteration of this, the FxTec Pro 1 from 2019.

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Post by rchaud »

b112 wrote: post #76
maxsilver wrote: post #69

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You can have both, with no drawbacks. My favourite phone ever designed was the BlackBerry Priv. It was an Android-based smartphone with a full-sized (5.4in) touchscreen, an completely-hidden slide-out physical keyboard, that also doubled as a touch-sensitive pad. You could "swipe" (touchscreen-style) over the keys, and then press down on those same physical keys simultaneously. But you could also slide it back into t…

Yes, plus not losing 1/2 the screen to an on-screen keyboard. Was almost pure android, incredibly secure. Blackberry got it right, then bailed.

The phone had a lot of complaints about getting hot while in use. The camera was also quite poor, which in 2015 was a dealbreaker.

I did run into someone using it though, and when I asked him how he liked it, he said it was great. The keyboard was more important to him than anything else.

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Post by usr1106 »

jk7tarYZAQNpTQa wrote: post #290
LilBytes wrote: post #231

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Well, was the Pro-1 ever delivered!?

Top comment as of right now says [1] they ordered one but was never delivered, and the seller never answered to emails. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26662123

Well, the top comment says they waited for 6 months until they requested a chargeback. The grand parent says they got theirs after 7 months. Not a contradiction.

The have been numerous such alternative phone and tablet projects during the last 12 years or so. Crowding funding or with a bit more of a commercial touch. All have failed to to deliver on time I would claim. Many if not most have failed to deliver at all. I would not call the founders dishonest. But whoever starts such a project lacks realism. It's incredibly complicated to make a phone, let alone a good one.

(I don't say the world would be a better place without optimists and over-optimists.)

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Post by usr1106 »

takeda wrote: post #280

I placed an order for their previous model, they assured me that I should get it 4 - 8 weeks. After I didn't get anything for 6 months I messaged them that I want to withdraw my order (the phone had already old hardware during release, and it was a year old when I ordered it, but at the same time it cost as much as a high end phone). I got no response from them. I then contacted my credit card company and they charge…

There is a comment further down saying they received theirs 7 months after the promised delivery date.

So not a scam, but certainly over-optimistic promises.

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