And I just realized what it is about LuLzSec that's bothered me. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but now I realize deep down they are nihilists. That's a damn shame. What seemed most admirable about Anonymous is that as much as they were also in it for lulz and pure chaos, underneath there seemed to be a kind of idealism. Idealism is seductive, nihilism is off-putting.
LulzSec: Why we do what we do
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#92>People who can make things work better within this rectangle have power over others; the whitehats who charge $10,000 for something we could teach you how to do over the course of a weekend, providing you aren't mentally disabled. This is a common complaint among blackhats: they see whitehats as being in the game for the money and taking advantage of the unenlightened as much as they [the blackhats] themselves do. I…
Blackhats can cost organizations way more than whitehats would charge in operating costs, personal identity theft, and reputation. Whitehats are only taking advantage of the unenlightened as much as a mechanic is taking advantage of someone who doesn't know anything about cars - they provide experience and expertise and offer a service for a high price - at least, a higher price than if the client knew how to fix it…
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Blackhats can cost organizations way more than whitehats would charge in operating costs, personal identity theft, and reputation. Whitehats are only taking advantage of the unenlightened as much as a mechanic is taking advantage of someone who doesn't know anything about cars - they provide experience and expertise and offer a service for a high price - at least, a higher price than if the client knew how to fix it…
I love it when the economically illiterate attack others for "price gouging" as if the third party doesn't have a choice in the matter or they aren't "unenlightened" enough to properly appraise the value of what they are buying. How do I know that my jeweler isn't gouging me on my fiancee's 2 caret diamond ring? Because I know that there's a fixed quantity of available diamonds, and almost everyone would buy them at…
Your jeweler is always gouging you when you buy diamonds.
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#94How do we enforce that these companies (such as banks) utilize proper security protocol (within reason of course)? Some would say, "With your wallet!". But what happens when it's your wallet that gets stolen (electronically)? What do you think?
Unfortunately, I've never seen "vote with your wallet" concept work[1], neither in the Internet, nor in real life. When a company misbehaves, there's usually a big group of their customers which doesn't know about it, and another (maybe little smaller) group, that doesn't care at all (or enough[2]). It's an interesting issue I have no idea how to fix... [1] - if you know any examples, I'd be glad to hear them. [2] -…
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> to take great joy in causing others pain This happens far more often than people realise.
Still does not make it okay.
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There is a need to develop systems that aren't subject to DDOS (at least the current generation). It used to be very easy to DOS anyone's network stack (think SYN flooding). If people hadn't shown that it was an issue by doing it, the Internet would still be running on stacks that were trivial to undermine many different ways. Saying that something is easy to do and has a tremendous impact is an engineering problem s…
> There is a need to develop systems that aren't subject to DDOS Some protocols are immune to DDOS: like BitTorrent and Freenet. HTTP wasn't designed to deal with DDOS.
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#98If so, it should help reduce the impact of a broad, simultaneous attack across many sites from much more dangerous foes. I am not saying it is right, but it may be more effective than the legislation our congress comes up with to protect us, with fewer nasty side effects.
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I love it when the economically illiterate attack others for "price gouging" as if the third party doesn't have a choice in the matter or they aren't "unenlightened" enough to properly appraise the value of what they are buying. How do I know that my jeweler isn't gouging me on my fiancee's 2 caret diamond ring? Because I know that there's a fixed quantity of available diamonds, and almost everyone would buy them at…
Funny that you use diamonds as an example, when the diamond market is one of the most rigged institutions on the planet. Your jeweler is always gouging you when you buy diamonds.
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Preying on the weak for fun Preying on the weak for profit They both kind of have a sociopath sound to them
But, only one of them is the foundation of our society.
A society driven by preying on the weak for profit is far more distressing.