Why we do what we do: We're 15, unsupervised, and behaving badly.
Do they really need a manifesto?
LulzSec: Why we do what we do
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
When Anonymous attacked Visa and Mastercard via DDoS (in retaliation to them cutting off Wikileaks donations), Anonymous did actually succeed in stopping the online verification systems for both companies (SecureCode, or something, and Verified by Visa). In that case, the DDoS attacks did more than just take the site down; they financially hurt their target, which was probably the aim to begin with. I'm not justifyin…
It also led to Paypal allowing Wikileaks to retrieve the money they already had before they suspended their account.
Is phillijw another false positive of HN spam detectors?
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Re: LulzSec: Why we do what we do
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#67They seem somewhat clueless.. If the NSA can partner with ISPs to scan internet traffic for phishing, viruses, etc ...the obvious next step is Lulzsec mentions or member mentions...in IRC, email, etc.. There is no such thing as hiding when attacking the internet, sooner or later you become the bitch
It's good for the NSA that there's no way to securely communicate over an insecure medium. It's also convenient that all Internet infrastructure exists inside the USA.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. If I leave the door to my house unlocked, it doesn't mean that it is ok for you to come in without my permission.
Morally, it's also not just how you break in, but what you do afterwards. I.e. if you prevent more harm than you do. If you enter the unlocked door and write "HI YOU FORGOT TO LOCK YOUR DOOR" with lipstick on the bathroom window, you're alerting the owner to a bad security practice by giving them a good scare. It is A Good Thing, because you likely prevented them losing their stuff. If you enter the unlocked door and…
What would a judge say?
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
See, is there a practical way to "fix" the problem behind a DDOS? More specific attacks (slowloris, SYN flood, ping of death, smurf, and a laundry list of other stuff) can be fixed by simply introducing changes to the infrastructure that makes such things possible. But a DDOS attack is, at heart, nothing more than a brute-force attack - flooding a single website / IP with so much traffic that it can't respond. No mat…
So let's think about how traffic gets onto the network and what steps might make sense to limit that. I have some "crazy" ideas about this including per device reputation enforced as close to the device as possible. Yes, if we say that anyone with any sort of device can send data to anyone then this will be a problem. There are other options including different sorts of "darknet" type things. Are there no "outside th…
It'd need the help of browsers or OS's (depending on where in the stack you put the logic), but one idea might be to require requests/packets to be signed by something that proves a sufficient amount of CPU work has been done (ala bitcoin). If the site comes under attack, they could turn this on (presumably with a middle-man service that can take high bandwidth) and up the amount of work required to reach the destination. This would no doubt slow things for the legitimate users, but it could make things much more difficult for the attackers.
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#70This smells to me like a hastily conjured rationalization for a series of attention-seeking acts wrought by a small group of disenfranchised industry workers who have something to say, but they're just not articulate enough to voice it so they blow shit up instead.
a small group of disenfranchised industry workers Do you really think they're industry workers? I'd peg most of them as high school kids. Probably with the occasional creepy thirty-something thrown in for good measure.
exactly. high schools have a strong envy for anarchy - trying stuff for fun.
I think most readers here went through that phase and forgot about it. Flirting with the borders is fun. We were not realizing the consequence of our acts.