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Re: Arabian Nights

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Did you produce the Edgar Allan Poe Short Fiction collection? I'm reading it right now, it's great! And huge! https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/edgar-allan-poe/short-fict...

Yep! Glad you’re enjoying it. Here are my share of the SE productions: https://www.robinwhittleton.com/books/ Biggest so far (and biggest on SE at 1.2m words) has been Samuel Pepys’ Diary: https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/samuel-pepys/the-diary

Whoa, SE looks incredible. Thanks for your work on that!

Are there any plans to support non-English ebooks as well?

Edit: Regarding non-English ebooks, I was thinking about books like "Der Vogelflug als Grundlage der Fliegekunst" (Birdflight As The Basis Of Aviation) by Otto Lilienthal (https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/54565). It's a fantastic book with nice hand-drawn illustrations, and it would deserve being presented/typeset in a beautiful way. Currently available ebooks are mostly bad.

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Always fun to remind people that Aladdin is actually Chinese in the original stories. But then, let's be fair, their depiction of China sounds like it was just a placeholder for "far away land"

Even to this day, the word China in Arabic (pronounced "seen") means far away. So if your friend lives across town and you are inconvenienced, in Arabic you would say "why do you live in China?".

Surprising, China's pronunciation in Tamil is also similar, 'Seena '!

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Unfortunately the format of most ebooks at Project Gutenberg is usually really bad. Usable on computer screen, but unusable on eBook readers. Just checked the "mobi" version of the volume 1 from this link, and it looks like all paragraphs are just walls of texts with no paragraphs and the footnotes don't really work unless you scroll manually. I guess it's better than nothing, but not very comfortable to read. Usuall…

These are sole issues of the reader software, unless of course your Ebook is some kind of closed-down kindle-type device. Coolreader and Koreader are examples of versatile and programmable softwares, which are available on Android and Linux-based E-ink readers.

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Even to this day, the word China in Arabic (pronounced "seen") means far away. So if your friend lives across town and you are inconvenienced, in Arabic you would say "why do you live in China?".

Surprising, China's pronunciation in Tamil is also similar, 'Seena '!

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Re: Arabian Nights

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Jorge Luis Borges wrote an excellent comparison of translations of the Arabian Nights, notably those of Galland, Burton, Lane and Mardrus. His conclusion was the Lane one was most faithful to the original, despite being prudishly bowdlerized, that Mardrus emphasized the sensual aspects to titillate his readers and Burton on the other hand over-emphasized the violence. I've read the Galland, Mardrus and Burton but not…

The opening of Borges' essay is absolutely brilliant writing:

> AT TRIESTE, IN 1872, in a palace with damp statues and deficient hygienic facilities, a gentleman on whose face an African scar told its tale — Captain Richard Francis Burton, the English consul — embarked on a famous translation of the Quitab aliflaila ua laila, which the roumis know by the title, The Thousand and One Nights. One of the secret aims of his work was the annihilation of another gentleman (also weatherbeaten, and with a dark Moorish beard) who was compiling a vast dictionary in England and who died long before he was annihilated by Burton. That gentleman was Edward Lane, the Orientalist, author of a highly scrupulous version of The Thousand and One Nights that had supplanted a version by Galland. Lane translated against Galland, Burton against Lane; to understand Burton we must understand this hostile dynasty.

Borges also admires Burton's footnotes:

> Thus Volume Six (which I have before me) includes some three hundred notes, among which are the following: a condemnation of jails and a defense of corporal punishment and fines; some examples of the Islamic respect for bread; a legend about the hairiness of Queen Belkis’ legs; an enumeration of the four colors that are emblematic of death; a theory and practice of Oriental ingratitude; the information that angels prefer a piebald mount, while Djinns favor horses with a bright-bay coat; a synopsis of the mythology surrounding the secret Night of Power or Night of Nights; a denunciation of the superficiality of Andrew Lang; a diatribe against rule by democracy; a census of the names of Mohammed, on the Earth, in the Fire, and in the Garden; a mention of the Amalekite people, of long years and large stature; a note on the private parts of the Moslem, which for the man extend from the navel to his knees, and for the woman from the top of the head to the tips of her toes; a consideration of the asa’o [roasted beef] of the Argentine gaucho; a warning about the discomforts of “equitation” when the steed is human; an allusion to a grandiose plan for cross-breeding baboons with women and thus deriving a sub-race of good proletarians. At fifty, a man has accumulated affections, ironies, obscenities, and copious anecdotes; Burton unburdened himself of them in his notes.

Re: Arabian Nights

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TIL Project Gutenberg is blocked in Germany.

I live in a place governed by the military, and they like to block things. But I have no idea why a country like Germany would do that.

This might have something to do with it:

https://cand.pglaf.org/germany/index.html

(Thomas Mann and Alfred Döblin are out of copyright in the USA, but not in Germany, but obviously there's more to it than that because different countries having different copyright durations is a very normal situation.)

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I live in a place governed by the military, and they like to block things. But I have no idea why a country like Germany would do that.

Because of Mein Kampf perhaps? Then again it's on Amazon, do they block Amazon?

No, that book has been in the public domain in Germany since 2015. Since then several annotated editions have been published.

IANAL, but it might be problematic to publish a modern version without any critical commentary as this could be interpreted as "glorifying naziism and the holocaust in public" which is a crime in Germany (§ 130 StGB [1]).

Before 2015 it was not banned in a political sense. The state of Bavaria claimed Hitlers copyright after the war and did not grant any rights to republish it. Ownership or sale of historical editions was always possible.

The project Gutenberg block is by them because they lost a copyright court case in 2018 (which was about ~20 books by 3 authors). See the other comment with a detailed link. They were not required to deny access to the complete site but only to these specific works.

[1]https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_stgb/englisch_st...

Re: Arabian Nights

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Standard Ebooks ( https://standardebooks.org ) is what you’re looking for.

Arabian Nights has been on my list to produce for SE for a couple of years now, but its sheer size is imposing. I’ll probably do it in the not too distant future though.

This site is amazing! Thank you!

For those who loved the Andrew Lang rainbow-color fairy tale books, Lang also published a volume of The Arabian Nights, not a translation but a recounting of selected tales. I encountered the Richard Burton commodious 3-volume set as a child. It's amazing that nobody at the time thought to proctor my reading choice, given the racism, misogyny, salaciousness, naughty illustrations, everything delivered in such a matter-of-fact tone and just laid out there. To read it cover-to-cover is actually not terribly fun. There's lots of little folk tale snippets, fables, poetry, and Burton footnoted the hell out of everything.

Re: Arabian Nights

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Fun fact about Arabian Nights: Some of the stories are only known from the French translation by Galland. By his own account he wrote them down (in French) based on narration from a Syrian Maronite storyteller who visited him in Paris. The well known story of Aladdin only exists in French - there is no known original in Arabic. Borges suggested Galland might simply have made up the story of Aladdin on his own, others…

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