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Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by qiqitori »

rz2k wrote: post #376
EricE wrote: post #92

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Your first mistake was thinking that you are the user they care about serving :p

YouTube premium never shows me adds, and downvotes have reliably gotten the AI to stop suggesting a musician or autoplaying a song that I don't like, regardless of their rough membership in a genre I otherwise want to hear. It makes me feel guilty to downvote someone or their work who's probably a good person, but it's the only reliable way to tune the AI. I get a lot of enjoyment out of music on youtube premium, but…

I guess this might be the reason they're getting rid of the downvote functionality.

The YouTube community usually doesn't take downvotes as "not interested", but rather as an explicit expression of "this is crap".

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by panny »

vharuck wrote: post #463
panny wrote: post #370

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>Downvotes are a signal about the percentage of people who watched something and disliked it, albeit an unreliable signal that can be gamed. I guess I just don't believe this. There's no gaming required. Youtube can and does adjust that number at will. It's not indicative of anything to me, anymore than a positive product review on Amazon is indicative of anything to me. Follower counts mean nothing. Likes mean nothi…

>I mean, it wasn't even a week ago where the media is running video with Biden's hand passing through reporter's microphones as he answered questions. Almost everything online and in the media is faked now. It was a large and fuzzy microphone down and to his right. https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N2LH199 Alternate angle video (Note how low the two fuzzy mics are): https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/b…

>The problem is, even the people who think they understand that and see through it are being manipulated.

Whether he's CGI Joe or not is just splitting hairs over the level of fake. The boring explanation is that the entire interaction was fake. The press had prepared questions that Biden knew. Biden had prepared answers the press knew. They're all just reading lines from a script. They might have even done more than one take to get it right. It is such a boring explanation that if I had incontrovertible proof of that being the case, the responses to it here would be something like, "Well of course it's fake! You really believed it was authentic? This is well documented in many presidencies. Look at FDR for example. Nothing burger."

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by iudqnolq »

nigrioid wrote: post #11

It's because of what happens when the White House forgets to disable comments and dislikes. https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/359823/former...

I'm disappointed by the fact that article uses "an ex googler made a tweet and twitter hasn't taken it down as misinformation" as evidence. I thought that sort of right-wing website didn't think twitter should be "the arbiters of truth"? And obviously that signal doesn't work in that direction.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by daveoc64 »

Reading the comments here makes me realise that how people use the like and dislike buttons differs significantly.

It reminds me of the Uber approach to rating drivers - by Uber's metrics anything less than 5 stars indicates there was a problem with the ride.

There are riders who don't see it that way though, so for them, 3 stars is an average ride without problems.

I rarely look at likes and dislikes. For anything large, it's full of brigading.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by Udik »

I was just thinking of the possibile impact had by not allowing/ hiding dislikes in creating the current, extremely tense climate on social networks. I wonder if allowing only positive feedback (which seemed to be meant, at least at the beginning, as a way to boost a mood of positive, pleasant interaction) is instead encouraging the expression of more and more extreme positions, since disagreement is effectively hidden. The popularity of a message doesn't imply that it's not at the same time divisive. You can get millions of hearts and likes, but you'll still be blind to how many people strongly disagree with it.

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Post by jp555 »

ironmagma wrote: post #380
jp555 wrote: post #360

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As long as it's still 2006.

The core intention of YouTube is to have a platform to advertise on. Without the viewers, the advertisers would have no interest in the platform. If there were no advertisers, that would not sway the viewers from having interest in the platform. The ads are there as a means to the end, it’s not the end itself.

If there were no advertisers, they would not be able to pay the expenses required to deliver something that meets user's expectations, and they would lose interest.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by JasonFruit »

pugworthy wrote: post #448
JasonFruit wrote: post #316

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I don't know why you're being downvoted, because you are obviously right — just like the audience will go where the content is, the content creators will go where they can get an audience.

Probably downvoted because of that last sentence.

But that's actually a good insight: it isn't Google that has taught me anything, but people, who happened to use Google's properties to distribute knowledge. Any other service would be as good, if the people chose to use it.
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