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Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by IgorPartola » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:14 PM UTC

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #55

Swenrekcah wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First of all, there are other languages than English. Some of them are programming languages. Also a touchscreen can not be operated with sweaty fingers or slightly unusual conditions. No they really can not be reliably used, recent years’ improvements notwithstanding. If I ever need to use my phone in an emergency outside in the cold with wet, sweaty perhaps bloody hands, I’d appreciate a 100% physical keyboard cont…

> If I ever need to use my phone in an emergency outside in the cold with wet, sweaty perhaps bloody hands Man, we have very different lifestyles. Are you a serial killer? :) > Some of them are programming languages You’re the first person I’ve known who programs on phone hardware rather than using a larger computer with emulators. It must be quite painful for you!

I guess someone has never been in a car crash. Or had to fix a problem on the train home after leaving work. Must be nice.

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by FlyingSnake » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:14 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #12

Ubuntu touch is the worst of all choices for a linux phone right now. It is based on obsolete ubuntu sources and the browser is really limited

Ubuntu Touch is alive and kicking as its new avatar at ubports.org. It has some rough edges, but I think it has lots of potential.

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by dsr_ » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:15 PM UTC

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #55

Swenrekcah wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First of all, there are other languages than English. Some of them are programming languages. Also a touchscreen can not be operated with sweaty fingers or slightly unusual conditions. No they really can not be reliably used, recent years’ improvements notwithstanding. If I ever need to use my phone in an emergency outside in the cold with wet, sweaty perhaps bloody hands, I’d appreciate a 100% physical keyboard cont…

> If I ever need to use my phone in an emergency outside in the cold with wet, sweaty perhaps bloody hands Man, we have very different lifestyles. Are you a serial killer? :) > Some of them are programming languages You’re the first person I’ve known who programs on phone hardware rather than using a larger computer with emulators. It must be quite painful for you!

Most people carry around several liters of blood inside them. It's surprisingly easy to get some out, even by accident.

While it is undeniably more comfortable to program with a nice keyboard and big monitor, emergencies can demand that you work with what you have. Typing

cat /tmp/accumulatedfiles | while read line ; do sed -i '/inner\;/outer\;/' can be rather frustrating without a real keyboard.

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by darau1 » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:15 PM UTC

HideousKojima wrote: post #60

darau1 wrote: post #30

I really wish they would just make some keyboard-case-love-child for some of the more popular mainstream devices. I really want a physical keyboard, but I don't want to give up my daily driver for a $900 unknown variable.

The PinePhone will be coming out with a keyboard add-on soon

That looks rather promising!

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by cmrdporcupine » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:16 PM UTC

So many OS options, but no webOS open source edition. I might get one just to port it. I miss that OS and my Palm Pre.

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by b112 » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:17 PM UTC

maxsilver wrote: post #69

tifadg1 wrote: post #23

For english language, swipe typing coupled with autocorrect works astonishingly well. So much so that I use it regularly because of lazyness. What segment does the physical keyboard appeal to? Youngins were born and raised touching the screen, so it's archaic to them. Old timers are jaded at this point to either wait for their dream phone or buy any cheap crap. So who's the target for this 900 usd device?

You can have both, with no drawbacks. My favourite phone ever designed was the BlackBerry Priv. It was an Android-based smartphone with a full-sized (5.4in) touchscreen, an completely-hidden slide-out physical keyboard, that also doubled as a touch-sensitive pad. You could "swipe" (touchscreen-style) over the keys, and then press down on those same physical keys simultaneously. But you could also slide it back into t…

Yes, plus not losing 1/2 the screen to an on-screen keyboard.

Was almost pure android, incredibly secure. Blackberry got it right, then bailed.

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by arghwhat » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:18 PM UTC

dsr_ wrote: post #73

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If I ever need to use my phone in an emergency outside in the cold with wet, sweaty perhaps bloody hands Man, we have very different lifestyles. Are you a serial killer? :) > Some of them are programming languages You’re the first person I’ve known who programs on phone hardware rather than using a larger computer with emulators. It must be quite painful for you!

Most people carry around several liters of blood inside them. It's surprisingly easy to get some out, even by accident. While it is undeniably more comfortable to program with a nice keyboard and big monitor, emergencies can demand that you work with what you have. Typing cat /tmp/accumulatedfiles | while read line ; do sed -i '/inner\;/outer\;/' can be rather frustrating without a real keyboard.

> Most people carry around several liters of blood inside them.

Emphasis on “most”.

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by Ashanmaril » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:18 PM UTC

ekianjo wrote: post #12

Ubuntu touch is the worst of all choices for a linux phone right now. It is based on obsolete ubuntu sources and the browser is really limited

I didn't even know it was still around. I remember installing it on my Nexus 4 to play around with it in like 2014 and it seemed like a mockup. All the "apps" were just links to mobile sites. Which I suppose is to be expected since Twitter or Facebook is never gonna make an app for a platform with no users.

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by artembugara » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:19 PM UTC

Last summer, Maksym and I (2 co-founders of NewsCatcher, full team) went to the beach. It was like 1 hour walk from the place we were (where all laptops were).

By the time we were at the beach, we began receiving the alarms that our ElasticSearch does not receive any new data.

Maksym had to debug from my iPhone XR (and he actually succeeded in 20 mins). That was this time I though it would be nice to have a phone like Pro1X.

Re: Pro1 X: A Linux smartphone with slideout keyboard

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Post by mlatu » Thu, Apr 01, 2021, 1:21 PM UTC

mulletbum wrote: post #36

tifadg1 wrote: post #23

For english language, swipe typing coupled with autocorrect works astonishingly well. So much so that I use it regularly because of lazyness. What segment does the physical keyboard appeal to? Youngins were born and raised touching the screen, so it's archaic to them. Old timers are jaded at this point to either wait for their dream phone or buy any cheap crap. So who's the target for this 900 usd device?

I honestly found keyboards like this cumbersome because I can only use two fingers. I thought that was there reason we got away from them in the first place? Then haptic feedback made it so touching the screen feels better, but the original iPhone showed you didn't need a keyboard. I am so confused on who would buy this device.

> Then haptic feedback made it so touching the screen feels better

ACTUAL MECHANICAL HAPTICS

vs

vibrating-slab-of-glass

vs

non-vibrating-slab-of-glass

cough yeah, have fun with your glass bricks