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Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Post by ashkankiani »

CameronNemo wrote: post #118
thescriptkiddie wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A pet peeve of mine is that google maps doesn't show most transit routes on the map. There is a transit layer you can enable, but it only shows metro and light rail, not buses, brt, trams, ferries, etc.

My pet peeve is that there is no hybrid bike/transit routing option. If you choose transit, they assume you are pedestrian. Maybe the option is there and I just have not found it.

They started doing this in Tokyo with the latest rollout which included the Live view (about 2 months ago?). I was also aggressively peeved by it.

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Post by Angostura »

drusepth wrote: post #92
oceliker wrote: post #46

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> If I could, I'd usually choose the lowest stress route! Apple Maps sometimes features alternate routes that are "simpler" or with "fewer turns", which I think is a very nice feature. I'd rather not cut through small side streets just to save 1-2 minutes.

Ironically, if there were a feature that only cut through small side streets and avoided larger streets, I'd use that all the time!

Try the cycling routes

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Post by moooo99 »

eru wrote: post #176
spqr0a1 wrote: post #139

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If it's optimizing for combustion cars it won't be a perfect match for electric. The ICE route will penalize intersections and hills due to engine idling and lack of regenerative braking.

Some fancy ICE cars automatically turn off the engine instead of idling.

Which is super annoying and in many instances damaging to the car (in the long run). Thats the reason why basically everybody that I know turns it off

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Post by jhoechtl »

All privacy concerns aside --- this seems like a very valuable addition to the map service.

Concerning indoor navigation: My minor concern is that I will take minor deviations eg. in an Airport, to pass by a potent Google add customer instead taking the shortest path.

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Post by jozvolskyef »

moooo99 wrote: post #223
eru wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some fancy ICE cars automatically turn off the engine instead of idling.

Which is super annoying and in many instances damaging to the car (in the long run). Thats the reason why basically everybody that I know turns it off

You can't turn it off in the EU. The configuration is reset as soon as you power off the car. Considering this, assuming your claim is true, there should be vast amounts of damage to vehicles in the EU, which there isn't. In other words, the stop-start system causing significant damage is just one of the many myths popular among motorists.

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Post by globular-toast »

48snickers wrote: post #204

This is the opposite of a map. A map helps you build a mental model for how you navigate space by showing you a broad view of the land, potentially enabling you to navigate to anywhere. This offloads the effort of learning, such that you don’t learn to navigate the space yourself, and only gets you from one point to another.

Exactly! Using GPS etc to navigate actively inhibits your ability to learn to navigate yourself. A friend of mine got a car with satnav built in years ago. After living in the same city for more than a decade he still can't get around without it.

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Post by mh- »

tehjoker wrote: post #206
datavirtue wrote: post #81

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Unless of course they optimize for me not driving under a train bridge with my camper. That would be a big help. I wish they took into account the vehicle you are driving.

Can you elaborate? I'm not sure I understood. I've never driven a camper.

I assume they mean the bridge clearance vs vehicle height. /r/11foot8 has some amusing examples.

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Post by bayindirh »

moooo99 wrote: post #223
eru wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some fancy ICE cars automatically turn off the engine instead of idling.

Which is super annoying and in many instances damaging to the car (in the long run). Thats the reason why basically everybody that I know turns it off

If I understood it correctly, Mazda specially optimized its engines for this. They align the pistons during the stop, so they can start 2x faster (~0.5sec IIRC), so faster start, more comfort, less stress on the engine due to start & stop.

I think with the latest iterations, the damage part is not that definitive.

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Post by globular-toast »

nxc18 wrote: post #205
AussieWog93 wrote: post #9

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I get that you're being flippant, but I did have a coworker who calculated the carbon footprint of his commute for various modes of transport, including walking. He came to the conclusion that, given the average amount of CO2 produced per calorie consumed, riding an e-bike was actually the lowest-impact way.

That assumes you would be eating more to compensate for the activity. Many people, because they spend so much time in their car or just being sedentary otherwise, actually need to go out of their way to exercise (e.g. in a treadmill in a gym). And for people who don’t already exercise, the marginal increase in CO2 is probably worth it for society. Practical example: I primarily walk and cycle, used to have a car but…

> I chose walking because it is specifically calorie inefficient

Surely you mean calorie efficient?

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Post by bayindirh »

jozvolskyef wrote: post #225
moooo99 wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is super annoying and in many instances damaging to the car (in the long run). Thats the reason why basically everybody that I know turns it off

You can't turn it off in the EU. The configuration is reset as soon as you power off the car. Considering this, assuming your claim is true, there should be vast amounts of damage to vehicles in the EU, which there isn't. In other words, the stop-start system causing significant damage is just one of the many myths popular among motorists.

I've heard only two things about start/stop systems:

    1. I don't like it (Folks didn't have a clear answer. Maybe ego?).
    2. Batteries are too expensive (Which I think is acceptable for such tech).
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