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Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by dathinab »

While many will complain and there had been some reasonable cases for dislike counts (they only remove the counts not the dislikes!) I think this kinda makes sense.

The large majority of "productive"/"fair" video engagement is pretty much independent of the dislike *counts*.

It still matters to be able to dislike as a feedback function but they are not removing this (for now at least.).

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by ma2rten »

EricE wrote: post #92
retsibsi wrote: post #9

This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.

Your first mistake was thinking that you are the user they care about serving :p

Right, according to the tweet this is done based on feedback from creators.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by rajup »

retsibsi wrote: post #9

This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.

"A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not." I'm sorry but this is one of those things which absolutely needs citation. I can't remember the last time I looked at likes/dislikes to decide whether to watch a video. The thumbnails on the watch/rec page are what draw me in to watch a video, I don't bother looking at the number of likes/dislikes (or comments) until maybe after watching the video.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by fargo »

retsibsi wrote: post #9

This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.

or check the date

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by simonsarris »

retsibsi wrote: post #9

This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.

Yeah. The downvote count is extraordinarily important when looking at things like chain sawing how-to videos. So many people uploading unsafe practices. More benign but sharpening videos have the same thing. Some look good but show bad technique.

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Post by phailhaus »

This is always always always a mistake. Social media _needs_ negative signals in order to self moderate, even if it's not much. Look at Facebook and Twitter for what happens when you don't: any kind of interaction is seen as positive, so both platforms amplify the most toxic and attention-seeking behaviors.

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Post by lalaland1125 »

kashprime wrote: post #165

There’s been something wonky about YouTube downvotes for a little while now. If you go any children’s video (I have two toddlers so am accessing them all the time), downvotes often outstrip upvotes. The reasons are unclear, maybe competitive pressure from rival channels astroturfing the votes? Take a look at this[0] video from Sesame Street, 1.3m downvotes for a fairly decent educational video, vs 1.7m upvotes? How i…

It's due to accidental clicks from toddlers.

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Post by mikeg8 »

tialaramex wrote: post #289

The only thing I've seen Dislike count used for on videos I watch is to drive a snowclone about what hypothetical type of viewers would dislike this particular video, like say there's a video showing how to correctly position Protoss buildings to prevent a Reaper jumping into your base in the video game Starcraft 2 [an early game harassment which is annoying and could win if you defend it poorly], and the video has 1…

I watch a lot of videos on home repair or construction topics ie “quick fix for broken PVC pipe” or “how to replace your RV water heater” and the like/dislike ratio is invaluable. The videos with high dislikes are either incomplete, incorrect, or have terrible audio rendering them useless. The videos with a high like ratio usually help me figure out how to do what I needed to do.
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