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Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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So they'll default to showing directions for biking, walking, and transit?

At least for cars, it makes little sense because the dominant factor is going to be the time on the road, which they in theory have been trying to minimize already.

Any additional micro-optimizations are going to be fractional.

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Eco-friendly stuff aside, this post makes me feel kind of nauseous. Things like indoor AR directions or having the weather integrated into a maps app are obvious applications of existing technology, but hardly anyone but Google has the resources to make these things happen at scale with nice UX.

So I see features like this and I feel bad that it's Google doing it: the ultimate goal of the technology is not to make the world any better, but to get more eyeballs and exfiltrate more personal data so their advertising monopoly can continue to snowball.

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does this factor in battery manufacturing / vehicle body manufacturing / varying gas efficiencies / etc.? The question is borne of the understanding that electric vehicles merely frontload your carbon footprint, rather than eliminating it.

I got around that by making my ebike out of recycled UPS batteries, and a bicycle I already owned. That way, the only source of carbon was making the additional drivetrain components.

Excellent, innovative, bravo! Unfortunately the vast majority of e-bikes are not DIY'd and so require new batteries for operation.

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until you have an accident and require lots of carbon intensive medical treatment, and your ebike is trashed. Disclaimer: I ride and love ebikes.

Yeah because walking is accident-free and cars are so much cheaper and carbon-friendlier to repair than bicycles.

Electric bicycles are notorious for high rate of injury accidents involving motor vehicles. Injuries tend to be similar to motorcycle/car collisions.

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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It's also the cheapest route to drive, as it's optimizing for lower fuel consumption: With insights from the U.S. Department of Energy’s National Renewable Energy Lab, we’re building a new routing model that optimizes for lower fuel consumption based on factors like road incline and traffic congestion. Provided that the few extra minutes aren't critical to one's wallet, it's a cost savings. For me those extra minutes…

> If I could, I'd usually choose the lowest stress route!

Apple Maps sometimes features alternate routes that are "simpler" or with "fewer turns", which I think is a very nice feature. I'd rather not cut through small side streets just to save 1-2 minutes.

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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post #5

Google greenwashing what is clearly a demonstration of its power to redirect flows of people at a whim. I wonder what other purposes such redirections could be used for?

Other purposes? It's easy! You can make people avoid businesses that didn't paid to you and make them drive close to fastfood that wanted advertising. Or you can drive people around some political protests...

I'm sorry, this is is dangerously close to conspiracy theory territory. I am by no means, an apologist for Google, but I seriously doubt they have the ability/resources, or even motivation to manage route planning at such a microscopic level.

I recognize that they have been caught with their pants down with things like altering search results [1], but making broad speculative claims like this about the real world without any substantiation whatsoever is unfair and alarmist.

[1] https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-google-interferes-with-its-...

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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post #42

Eco-friendly stuff aside, this post makes me feel kind of nauseous. Things like indoor AR directions or having the weather integrated into a maps app are obvious applications of existing technology, but hardly anyone but Google has the resources to make these things happen at scale with nice UX. So I see features like this and I feel bad that it's Google doing it: the ultimate goal of the technology is not to make th…

I mean -- if it is in their ultimate advantage for the continuation of our economic system and way of life, it makes sense.

They're treating climate change like it is an existential crisis for them as well. Let them.

Re: Redefining what a map can be with new information and AI

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It's also the cheapest route to drive, as it's optimizing for lower fuel consumption: With insights from the U.S. Department of Energy’s National Renewable Energy Lab, we’re building a new routing model that optimizes for lower fuel consumption based on factors like road incline and traffic congestion. Provided that the few extra minutes aren't critical to one's wallet, it's a cost savings. For me those extra minutes…

It might coincide with lower stress if it involves less congestion. I guess we'll see how it pans out in practice.
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