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It's quickly getting to the point where being exposed to youtube at all just opens you up to a ton of intentional manipulation from an organization who's entire product is manipulating people for pay. It's probably best to completely avoid all of it.
This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.
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There's a site tracking these, some of the stats on older videos with high views are crazy (down the page): https://81m.org
It's interesting to compare this to the Trump Whitehouse Archive: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCITMedGC5PA-zMrLTH5-kg Almost the exact inverse like/dislike ratio. Biden received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history, AND they should skew much younger than Trump voters. So why is it that the Biden White House channel struggles so much with likes vs dislikes?
You mean Dominion voting machines recorded more votes for Biden than any other presidential candidate in history.
This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.
-Likes/Dislikes
-Only likes
-Only dislikes
I'd rather have only dislikes to filter content producer that can work past negativity.
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Are people really using votes like that? You putting your trust in deciding quality in a vote count? There's so much wrong with that.
noisy signal is better than no signal, which in turn is better than manipulated signal. at least with this change they won't be deleting[0] dislikes anymore. [0]: https://phzoe.com/2021/01/27/white-house-youtube-dislike-man...
well, time for someone to build a third party dislike count and release browser extensions
Or for tiktok to start a competing video streaming site. Sure, if you go against the CCP, your video will be deleted and your account nuked, but you can still post those on YouTube. For everything else, tttube won't care who it offends in the US.
That has not been the case for a good while.
What's going on in this comment section? It seems more like of a reddit thread than the usual thoughtful HN comments. Propaganda? Ghostbusters? Whitehouse? "They"? Are troll farms targeting HN now?
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> Content creators of all stripes are absolutely desperate for an alternative platform Peertube exists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PeerTube
For certain values of exists. I would love to get off of YouTube completely, but until eg PeerTube actually gets a significant number of content creators to move over or upload in parallel, its going to be impossible to fight YT. It's a very chicken/egg problem. Thankfully, YT keeps doing user-hostile things, slowly pushing more people into trying out alternatives.
I know that’s a really esoteric example and I’m sorry.
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Comparison of likes to views works well enough. Actually, they don't even need likes, they can understand good and bad videos just by analysing how long viewers spent viewing the video. Likes (and dislikes) are needed mostly for viewers who might want to feel helpful.
View time isn't adequate if a video isn't obviously bad until the very end though.
Dislike mobs do more harm. They probably ignore dislikes already.