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Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Reminds me when X-rays first were discovered, everyone claimed their product contained them, including X-ray headache tablets, golf balls, stove polish, razor blades. https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/rg.242035157 for some fun pictures. I won't be surprised when AI toothbrushes come out.

I promise you the AI toothbrushes ARE coming. Just wait...

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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This still happens a lot with some more mundane things. I picked up a bag of sugar the other day that said "gluten-free sugar!"

It doesn't help when formal classifications such as "organic" muddy the waters: "Of course it's organic, it comes from a plant!" "That's not what organic means..." "Guh, wat?"

It's generally a good idea to avoid more than trace amounts of inorganic foods. Just Sayin'...

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The Ad for the "x-ray stove polish" lists "cannot explode" as a feature which makes me wonder about their competitions polish

https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=SJMN19060225.2.77&e=-------en--2... Exploding Stove Polish was apparently a problem. Gotta wonder what chemical it was causing the problem.

The problem might be less with the chemicals in the polish per se and more with the mechanical processes surrounding its manufacture and use. Many otherwise safe substances become explosive when aerosolized.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_explosion

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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:( https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/10/25/20932250/...

if brush_time 5.minutes return "Brush less" end

In the real world, most AI is just a bunch of IF statements, anyway, just abstracted away enough that it's no longer obvious.

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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"Computers have not become intelligent per se, but they have provided capabilities that augment human intelligence, he writes. Moreover, they have excelled at low-level pattern-recognition capabilities that could be performed in principle by humans but at great cost. " It's odd how under-appreciated this is. There is no "intelligence" here as we know it, not even a hint. There are algorithms operating on data for ver…

> There is no "intelligence" here as we know it, not even a hint. There are algorithms operating on data for very prescribed use cases. I agree with your general point, but if you break it down, our brains a nothing "intelligent" either. It's just a network of neurons searching for patterns in the sensor input. Sure, it can reconfigure itself, but from a really abstract perspective it's nothing more than a ultra-scal…

No, the difference is we can understand and apply knowledge in different contexts. I'm not saying machines will never mimic that (GPT3 is getting kinda close at times), but as my good friend Dewayne Perry (co-author of the most cited paper in SW engineering and Motorola Regent Chair at UTexas) says, "Artificial intelligence has a long way to go just to catch up to natural stupidity!" Try getting Alexa (famously trained daily by millions) to do anything in anything other than the predefined prescribed way. I'd wait, but I've got a life to live...

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Sadly our marketing tests show that when we say our product uses ML we get far less engagement than when we say AI. I don't know that net-conversion is better with AI but ML sure doesn't capture people's imagination. Sigh.

Btw, reminds me of the old joke that goes something like this: AI for marketing, ML for recruiting, Regression for design, multiplication for implementation.

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post #14

Reminds me when X-rays first were discovered, everyone claimed their product contained them, including X-ray headache tablets, golf balls, stove polish, razor blades. https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/rg.242035157 for some fun pictures. I won't be surprised when AI toothbrushes come out.

The Ad for the "x-ray stove polish" lists "cannot explode" as a feature which makes me wonder about their competitions polish

And the picture of devils (?) dancing on the stove? Who are they marketing to?

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

#128
post #14

Reminds me when X-rays first were discovered, everyone claimed their product contained them, including X-ray headache tablets, golf balls, stove polish, razor blades. https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/rg.242035157 for some fun pictures. I won't be surprised when AI toothbrushes come out.

That already happend, in 2019. https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/10/25/20932250/...

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

#129
post #95

What is considered "AI" changes over time. At any point in history, if a machine appears to do a task that only a human brain used to be able to do, then that's considered "AI". So in the mid 1900s a calculator that is able to do arithmetic was considered "AI", and in the late 1900s chess playing machines were considered "AI". Today those things are not considered "AI". What is considered "AI" today will not be consi…

>So in the mid 1900s a calculator that is able to do arithmetic was considered "AI" Is this true? The citation you link doesn't seem to clearly state that. I see the linked page says: >A simple electronic calculator performs calculations much faster than the human brain, and almost never makes a mistake.[4] Is a calculator intelligent? But I don't see where it says anyone in the mid 1900s thought a calculator was AI.…

> there's been a pretty clear and consistent (if poorly defined) goal of human-like intelligence.

You don't think performing arithmetic and playing chess could ever have been thought of as requiring human-like intelligence?

See https://www.leanix.net/en/blog/what-is-the-difference-betwee...

Excerpts:

Artificial intelligence has been around for ages, with it even being used in the Greek mythology to express human like machines which copied man’s behaviour. At the beginning, even early computers were considered logical machines as they were able to reproduce “intelligent” capabilities such a arithmetics and memory… Engineers of that era saw it as an attempt to create mechanical brains.

Nowadays, something as “trivial” as a calculator function, does not go hand in hand with our current concept of Artificial Intelligence.

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