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Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by liaukovv »

davesque wrote: post #36

Honestly, it seems like there's no easy win here. I think people for and against this both have good arguments. For example, getting rid of dislikes could mitigate the effects of synthetic brigading campaigns. On the other hand, keeping them could in certain cases give a better view of the organic reaction to a video. I don't spend every day trying to solve these problems so I don't have a strong opinion about what t…

Synthetic brigading is what exactly? Bands of synthetics downvoting videos to bring about downfall of humanity?

Or do people's opinions count less if they are organized?

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by cbozeman »

happytoexplain wrote: post #34
cbozeman wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's because of Ghostbusters (2016). It just took this long for everyone else to catch up and realize that, "it can happen to you". We were all supposed to love that movie because it has four women in it! Turns out a shit movie is a shit movie no matter how many SNL alums you throw at it.

>We were all supposed to love that movie because it has four women in it I see this sarcastic quipping a couple orders of magnitude more often than I see the attitude it is skewering in regards to that movie (not that that attitude didn't exist). I think part of that is the normal overreaction to anything "SJW", but I think the bigger contribution might be because, after the incredible degree of hatred the black actr…

> the incredible degree of hatred the black actress got

I really don't recall Leslie Jones receiving as much backlash as certain outlets purported. Part of that is because that, for these outlets (common offenders including Slate and its ilk), any amount of backlash or derision, or frankly, anything less than glowing praise is "racism". And now that the word "racism" is starting to lose power, they've moved on to "white supremacy", but that's another topic...

I think you could be on to something, but the bulk of the backlash was because they butchered an absolute classic comedy that millions of people grew up watching (I myself have probably seen it over 50 times, my Mom said I watched it over and over as a kid).

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by ErikVandeWater »

argvargc wrote: post #24
nigrioid wrote: post #11

It's because of what happens when the White House forgets to disable comments and dislikes. https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/359823/former...

There's a site tracking these, some of the stats on older videos with high views are crazy (down the page): https://81m.org

It's interesting to compare this to the Trump Whitehouse Archive: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCITMedGC5PA-zMrLTH5-kg

Almost the exact inverse like/dislike ratio.

Biden received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history, AND they should skew much younger than Trump voters. So why is it that the Biden White House channel struggles so much with likes vs dislikes?

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by lbarrow »

retsibsi wrote: post #9

This seems rather user-hostile. The downvote count is useful for identifying videos that aren't what they claim to be. And how about DIY videos that give terrible advice? A big downvote ratio will get most people's attention in a way that critical comments may not.

The content creators are also users. The announcement emphasizes that they're doing this to help improve the content creator experience.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by sokoloff »

Syonyk wrote: post #37
cbozeman wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's entirely too much good stuff on YouTube to ignore. I learn so much there, all for free.

But what are the opportunity costs of learning stuff on YouTube, especially if you're watching hours of content? There is good stuff in there - don't get me wrong. It's just that the good stuff you want to find is often quite hidden, and I've on occasion spent more time trying to find some video that actually shows a tricky part of some bit of equipment maintenance than it would take to just do things the slow way (t…

I feel like I often have time saved on almost exactly the situation you described. Changing the alternator on our Honda CR-V, there's a method to remove the fan and fan support and pull the alternator out the front of the car and top instead of doing a lot more disassembly on the front of the engine (side of the car) and draining the coolant. I wouldn't have thought to do it that way if I hadn't been in the habit of watching 2 or 3 videos of new-to-me car repairs.

I find myself watching zero mass-market television and a lot more YouTube (tech, electronics, machining, mostly) and think it a lot better value for entertainment time spent than TV ever was. (Sure, it's not as dense as reading a technical book, but after a day of work, I'm more up for the casual experience.)

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by cbozeman »

Syonyk wrote: post #37
cbozeman wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's entirely too much good stuff on YouTube to ignore. I learn so much there, all for free.

But what are the opportunity costs of learning stuff on YouTube, especially if you're watching hours of content? There is good stuff in there - don't get me wrong. It's just that the good stuff you want to find is often quite hidden, and I've on occasion spent more time trying to find some video that actually shows a tricky part of some bit of equipment maintenance than it would take to just do things the slow way (t…

I consider YouTube a tool. It gives me, as you pointed out, surface level knowledge. Once I'm armed with that, I can go dig deeper and find the books or resources I need to gain expert-level knowledge.

Re: Testing a few new designs that don't show the public dislike count

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Post by nigrioid »

argvargc wrote: post #24
nigrioid wrote: post #11

It's because of what happens when the White House forgets to disable comments and dislikes. https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/359823/former...

There's a site tracking these, some of the stats on older videos with high views are crazy (down the page): https://81m.org

Thanks for that! I'm glad to see a few people here who can tell something's going on.
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