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Amazon plans to ‘return to an office-centric culture as our baseline’

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Re: Amazon plans to ‘return to an office-centric culture as our baseline’

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Post by sokoloff »

chrisseaton wrote: post #45
sokoloff wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not in GP’s boat (I unexpectedly love WFH), but if part of what I miss is the effectiveness of shared analog whiteboard discussions, those are hard if you’re the only one at the whiteboard.

Right I'm pointing out that being glad everyone is being forced back into the office against their will is being glad that other people's happiness is being sacrificed for your own. Which doesn't sound so great when you say it like that.

Or it's being glad that company leadership is, using their best judgment, optimizing for the effectiveness and competitiveness of the company that ensures you have food with your meals.

It can be (and likely is) neutral/ignoring of other people's happiness rather than actively glad that they're not getting their way.

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Post by derision »

Someone1234 wrote: post #33
jgalt212 wrote: post #13

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It's also harder to trade on Robinhood when in the office.

It is a mobile app primarily, so I'm not sure that's true.

Is it? I've made over 6 figures off (realized) profit on robinhood and never touched the app after signing up

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Post by grillvogel »

closeparen wrote: post #49
chrisseaton wrote: post #30

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> am i the only person excited about this If they'd announced people could optionally return to the office, then yeah maybe be excited about it. But are you excited they're going to force your co-workers to return even if they don't want to? Why?

I don’t care how people do their focus time, and I’m fine with Zoom for broadcast/presentation style meetings, but I’m excited to have my coworkers physically present again when we’re discussing and troubleshooting things together. Zoom fatigue is real, latency kills interactive conversation, and the avatars on my screen are at this point pretty disconnected from the real people I once knew.

at my work place people have started using your slack handle when they talk to you in DMs instead of your actual name

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Post by packetlost »

regularfry wrote: post #59
pandem wrote: post #17

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I'm 28 and can't wait until I get back to the office. A lot of people like the social aspect of the job and not everybody decides to live a miserable commute away from their office

I'm 41 and glad to see the back of it. My commute was never miserable, but it was always wasted time. A lot of people also don't like the social aspect of the job, and the fact that it's been the default since basically forever has meant that those people have been under what I might call (somewhat hyperbolically) the tyranny of extroversion. I've been noticeably less stressed since I noped out of the office last yea…

Depending on the job, team building and social trust are important aspects of a well functioning team. If you truly do work alone, fine. But most people don't.

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Post by akhilcacharya »

nvr219 wrote: post #48
akhilcacharya wrote: post #31

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I got an email yesterday and it was reforwarded by my skip level manager. I’m surprised you wouldn’t get it.

Maybe you were supposed to reforward it to the other person.

Oops, my bad y'all!

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Post by grillvogel »

kps wrote: post #58
chrisseaton wrote: post #30

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> am i the only person excited about this If they'd announced people could optionally return to the office, then yeah maybe be excited about it. But are you excited they're going to force your co-workers to return even if they don't want to? Why?

Extroverts had become accustomed to introverts bearing their externalities.

what does that even mean

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Post by chrisseaton »

grillvogel wrote: post #78
kps wrote: post #58

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Extroverts had become accustomed to introverts bearing their externalities.

what does that even mean

Extraverts want introverts in the office and don't care what pain that causes them.

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Post by regularfry »

packetlost wrote: post #75
regularfry wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm 41 and glad to see the back of it. My commute was never miserable, but it was always wasted time. A lot of people also don't like the social aspect of the job, and the fact that it's been the default since basically forever has meant that those people have been under what I might call (somewhat hyperbolically) the tyranny of extroversion. I've been noticeably less stressed since I noped out of the office last yea…

Depending on the job, team building and social trust are important aspects of a well functioning team. If you truly do work alone, fine. But most people don't.

I don't work alone. Most of what I do involves getting other people to change what they're doing. It's high-interaction work, for the most part. And it works just fine remotely.
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