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BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

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Re: BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

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Post by thereare5lights »

TeeMassive wrote: post #34
thereare5lights wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> how is it not against the law to act on a foreign government's orders to harass citizens? When you consider that until very recently, it was legal for NYPD officers to have sex with people in their custody, and indeed, in many places it is still legal for police to coerce sex from people in their custody, you'll realize that law is reactionary and until it becomes a problem that catches a politician's eye, it won't…

> When you consider that until very recently, it was legal for NYPD officers to have sex with people in their custody That has nothing to do with the subject.

On the contrary, they're both things that should obviously be illegal.

The question is why aren't things that should obviously be illegal not actually illegal. I answered that question. However, it seems like some people reflexively support the police so they don't read past the surface.

Re: BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

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Post by dang »

tammerk wrote: post #22
Klwohu wrote: post #12

Wow somebody came in and downvoted EVERYBODY in this thread. Five cent army, assemble!

> Five cent army, assemble! Quick link : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party They also flag posts to take down from the first page. Just look how many votes do this post have but barely on the first page, about to fall down.

You've seriously broken the HN guidelines. Please read the rules and stick to them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

If you'd like more explanation, there is plenty at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26652363 and the links back from there.

Re: BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

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Post by dang »

wait_a_minute wrote: post #55
tammerk wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is way beyond being "controversial". First thing probably, HN team can investigate all China related posts and gather users who flagged these posts and take action accordingly.

What if some of those people are on the HN team?

You may be at step 4 of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637365.

Re: BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

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Post by dang »

Klwohu wrote: post #12

Wow somebody came in and downvoted EVERYBODY in this thread. Five cent army, assemble!

You've seriously broken the HN guidelines. Please read the rules and stick to them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

If you'd like more explanation, there is plenty at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26652363 and the links back from there.

Edit: we had to warn you about this before (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26549570). Continuing to break the rules like this will get your account banned. (Btw, if you or anyone think I might be posting this because I'm secretly a communist, foreign agent, or $x-sympathizer, please see step 4 of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637365.)

Re: BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

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Post by dang »

yumraj wrote: post #31
c0nducktr wrote: post #28

Anyone care to say what they believe should be done, or is this just another mad about things thread? Anyone have ideas? What is the solution?

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Re: BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

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Post by dang »

All: these threads have all become the same hellish flamewar, endlessly repeated. Anything this flamey and/or repetitive is off topic here. HN is for thoughtful, curious conversation, not smiting enemies: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Please see these recent explanations:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637365

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26630159

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26643703

If you want more, there's 7 years' worth at these links:

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

Mini-FAQ:

Q: But isn't this an important world situation?

A: Sure—more important than most of what's on HN. That doesn't mean that HN's rules stop applying or that flamewar becomes ok. Also, people angrily yelling on the internet has nothing to do with helping oppressed peoples. It is about activated tribal emotion, and in that sense belongs to the problem rather than any step toward solution.

Q: Are you secretly a spy, Chinese agent, communist, astroturfer, racist, or sympathizer thereof?

A: No; see step 4 of https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637365. We're just trying to have an internet forum that doesn't suck. The idea of HN has always [1] been to avoid becoming scorched earth [2] or at least to stave off that fate for a while longer [3]. Scorched earth is not interesting, and threads like these are unfortunately a fast road to hell.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

[2] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&qu...

[3] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so...

Re: BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

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Post by dang »

Leary wrote: post #3

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You've broken the HN guidelines. Other people breaking the rules does not make that ok.

Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here.

If you'd like more explanation, there is plenty at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26652363 and the links back from there.

Re: BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

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Post by dang »

quantstats wrote: post #8
Leary wrote: post #3

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I’m curious: looking at your posting history, are you at least being paid to astroturf pro-CCP propaganda, or do you do it for free? Could you give us some insight into how it works?

You've seriously broken the HN guidelines. We ban accounts that do this. Please read the rules and stick to them: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

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Re: BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

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Post by dang »

KlinkEastwood wrote: post #107
tim333 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The CCP are quite image conscious. All people are really asking is that they treat the Uighurs in a normal manner rather than trying to overthrow the CCP.

The CCp is not image conscious. That's honestly a totally asinine statement. That's like saying a mafia boss is image conscious because he threatens to murder anyone who speaks out about his crimes. And speak for yourself, I would like few political things more than to see the ccp overthrown and a bunch of apparatchiks hanged from the forbidden palace.

We've banned this account for using HN primarily for political/nationalistic/ideological/racial/whatever-this-is battle. We ban such accounts regardless of what they're battling for or against because it destroys the curious conversation this site is supposed to be for. Please don't create accounts to do that with.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

dang wrote: post #116

All: these threads have all become the same hellish flamewar, endlessly repeated. Anything this flamey and/or repetitive is off topic here. HN is for thoughtful, curious conversation, not smiting enemies: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html . Please see these recent explanations: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26637365 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26630159 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?…

I am genuinely curious (even though this may not be the best place to ask) : are you the only mod running around trying to keep HN in one piece or are there more (also because you often say "we" (banned, warned,etc.))

In any case, great work.

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