I have been working from home for 10 years. My wife recently had a baby and I wish I had an office to go to...
Amazon plans to ‘return to an office-centric culture as our baseline’
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#62If companies had to pay even part of the externalities of commuting they'd have stopped this antiquated modus operandi long ago. As it stands I feel like we're going to have to wait until all Silent Generation/Boomers retire before we can see real progressive change in this area. Honestly it really speaks to poor management in general. If your only measure for project progress is "butts in seats," then you have no id…
I'm 28 and can't wait until I get back to the office. A lot of people like the social aspect of the job and not everybody decides to live a miserable commute away from their office
Re: Amazon plans to ‘return to an office-centric culture as our baseline’
#63If companies had to pay even part of the externalities of commuting they'd have stopped this antiquated modus operandi long ago. As it stands I feel like we're going to have to wait until all Silent Generation/Boomers retire before we can see real progressive change in this area. Honestly it really speaks to poor management in general. If your only measure for project progress is "butts in seats," then you have no id…
> If companies had to pay even part of the externalities of commuting they'd have stopped this antiquated modus operandi long ago. I personally lost money by working from home. My transportation costs were negligible, but I lost access to free food/drink and have to consume much more electricity at home.
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m not in GP’s boat (I unexpectedly love WFH), but if part of what I miss is the effectiveness of shared analog whiteboard discussions, those are hard if you’re the only one at the whiteboard.
Right I'm pointing out that being glad everyone is being forced back into the office against their will is being glad that other people's happiness is being sacrificed for your own. Which doesn't sound so great when you say it like that.
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> am i the only person excited about this If they'd announced people could optionally return to the office, then yeah maybe be excited about it. But are you excited they're going to force your co-workers to return even if they don't want to? Why?
I don’t care how people do their focus time, and I’m fine with Zoom for broadcast/presentation style meetings, but I’m excited to have my coworkers physically present again when we’re discussing and troubleshooting things together. Zoom fatigue is real, latency kills interactive conversation, and the avatars on my screen are at this point pretty disconnected from the real people I once knew.
Re: Amazon plans to ‘return to an office-centric culture as our baseline’
#66If companies had to pay even part of the externalities of commuting they'd have stopped this antiquated modus operandi long ago. As it stands I feel like we're going to have to wait until all Silent Generation/Boomers retire before we can see real progressive change in this area. Honestly it really speaks to poor management in general. If your only measure for project progress is "butts in seats," then you have no id…
It seems like that externality would be relatively straightforward to identify and de-incentivize. Just change the rules to allow workers to expense travel to their regular reporting location and then tax companies based on the total number above a certain floor.
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#67am i the only person excited about this (i dont work at amazon) im pretty burned out on wfh
No, there are lots of extroverts who like social interaction in the workplace, and bad managers who think their main job is to observe and ensure butts-in-seats.
There are plenty of other reasons too. It is much faster to communicate face to face (for me) and I tend to be much better at resolving micro-miscommunications that can blow up in hours of days of work delays when I'm face to face than when I'm remote. Compounded with the fact that I am not good at reading people in general (but much worse so remotely), in the WFH setup I end up having a lot more situations where I don't know exactly where a coworker and I stand on a certain issue, which even if it happened in the office it would be resolved in I think it's because in the office, interrupting someone with a quick question is a much lower barrier/less hassle than asking them to join you on a short video conference.
Re: Amazon plans to ‘return to an office-centric culture as our baseline’
#68am i the only person excited about this (i dont work at amazon) im pretty burned out on wfh
Now that the office is open, honestly I don't go in as much as I thought I would and seem to miss it less than I imagined. I like the flexibility and do enjoy going in on the occasion to see people but honestly I think I'm going to stick to WFH for most of the time.
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#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems like that externality would be relatively straightforward to identify and de-incentivize. Just change the rules to allow workers to expense travel to their regular reporting location and then tax companies based on the total number above a certain floor.
It's more than just travel, it's also the cost of owning and maintaining a vehicle, the space to park it both at home and at work, the cost of insuring a vehicle. Or the cost of a bus pass/transit at least. But the time cost of transit is generally higher than the time cost of commuting by car. And the time cost of commuting in general is pretty high and will never, ever show up on an expense report. It's silly how m…
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I'm not optimistic about my chances remaining in home office.
Interview now while everyone is remote and it’s easier to do versus taking time off when you’re forced back into an office.