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Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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TecoAndJix wrote: post #44
ipsum2 wrote: post #14

Reminds me when X-rays first were discovered, everyone claimed their product contained them, including X-ray headache tablets, golf balls, stove polish, razor blades. https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/rg.242035157 for some fun pictures. I won't be surprised when AI toothbrushes come out.

The Ad for the "x-ray stove polish" lists "cannot explode" as a feature which makes me wonder about their competitions polish

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Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Post by fdsafdsfdsf »

lightgreen wrote: post #13

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Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Post by josefx »

codetrotter wrote: post #6

> “People are getting confused about the meaning of AI in discussions of technology trends—that there is some kind of intelligent thought in computers that is responsible for the progress and which is competing with humans,” he says. “We don’t have that, but people are talking as if we do.” How much more am I as a human really than the machine learning algorithms are?

Most are pre trained and intentionally left incapable of learning on the go. One probably would count that as a rather major issue when encountered in a human.

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Post by ketralnis »

TecoAndJix wrote: post #44
ipsum2 wrote: post #14

Reminds me when X-rays first were discovered, everyone claimed their product contained them, including X-ray headache tablets, golf balls, stove polish, razor blades. https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/rg.242035157 for some fun pictures. I won't be surprised when AI toothbrushes come out.

The Ad for the "x-ray stove polish" lists "cannot explode" as a feature which makes me wonder about their competitions polish

That's exactly why they say it

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Post by wunderflix »

temac wrote: post #37
wunderflix wrote: post #8

I really liked the definition of AI (back in 2015) by Seth Godin - a marketer! > One common insightful definition of AI: Artificial Intelligence is everything a computer can't do yet. As soon as it can, we call it obvious. If the term is used like that it does make sense to me. https://seths.blog/2015/04/the-noise-in-our-head-and-artific...

Products are shipped which claim to use "AI". This is self-contradictory with this definition, and no product can ever exist claiming AI with it. I'm fine with that, but then it seems that the term would be completely useless, when "science-fiction" already exist (and, even if it is not always, can be realistic)

I understand what you are saying and I tend to agree. But: AI would then be way more specific to computers. Science Fiction is a very broad term also applied to biology, engineering etc.

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Post by wunderflix »

ipsum2 wrote: post #14

Reminds me when X-rays first were discovered, everyone claimed their product contained them, including X-ray headache tablets, golf balls, stove polish, razor blades. https://pubs.rsna.org/doi/full/10.1148/rg.242035157 for some fun pictures. I won't be surprised when AI toothbrushes come out.

I am pretty sure there is an AI toothbrush already...

(Haven't googled it yet, I swear!)

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Post by sidpatil »

choxi wrote: post #42
djoldman wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

:( https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2019/10/25/20932250/...

if brush_time 5.minutes return "Brush less" end

I.e. using bleeding-edge decision-tree models to disrupt the oral hygiene space.

Re: Stop Calling Everything AI, Machine-Learning Pioneer Says

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Post by hervature »

temac wrote: post #37
wunderflix wrote: post #8

I really liked the definition of AI (back in 2015) by Seth Godin - a marketer! > One common insightful definition of AI: Artificial Intelligence is everything a computer can't do yet. As soon as it can, we call it obvious. If the term is used like that it does make sense to me. https://seths.blog/2015/04/the-noise-in-our-head-and-artific...

Products are shipped which claim to use "AI". This is self-contradictory with this definition, and no product can ever exist claiming AI with it. I'm fine with that, but then it seems that the term would be completely useless, when "science-fiction" already exist (and, even if it is not always, can be realistic)

Well unless you read it as “humans do the hard part” and so a product with AI can make substantial use of computer systems as long as humans are at the helm. The definition is obviously bad because you wouldn’t consider a fire AI because a computer can’t do that. The definition needs an additional stipulation that AI is a computing program.
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