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Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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What if animals, including humans, share a basic language but over time, humans have lost the ability to understand our animal companions as our brains have optimized language processing for human communication since humans represent the greatest threat to their individual survival? What if we are the only ones who have no idea how to communicate with anyone not of the same species? What if other animals send ambassa…

I love to think about this.

As do I.

Great work on this. Hopefully you are able to crack a code that finally allows us to participate in the conversation.

It has always intrigued me that animals recognize when humans are in the area and in general designate a member of the group to monitor us to determine our intentions. I feel like they are experts at human gesture recognition, able to detect intent just from the context of the motions and that some monitor whether we have anything in our hands that could be used against them.

It's hilarious that mockingbirds and other birds will dive bomb people wandering too close to a nest and it's entertaining to think that part of their vocalizing is probably just a series of warnings, epithets and insults as they are forced to take action against the oblivious intruder who bumbled into their territory.

Vocalizations by any animal are just band-limited signals. If we can figure out which frequency components carry the information and derive information about the encoding then we can decipher it.

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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The first thing that comes to mind is this old episode of Radiolab I listened to years ago, "Wild Talk", about the inter-species crosstalk in the jungle, which dramatically culminates with a researcher realizing that he was being stalked by a leopard by triangulating a series of monkey alarms: https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/98611...

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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In a previous life I performed research on the neurological basis of birdsong, which is fairly well understood for passerines.

Sounds produced by birds can be divided into two types: songs and calls. Songs are primarily by males to attract mates, and are sung the same song over and over with minimal variation. Females, in turn, are attracted to the males with highest song stereotypy that sound closest to the "ideal" for the species. Calls are used to communicate to other birds of a certain idea, e.g. a predator nearby, and are also consequently standardized.

So while this is indeed very cool, it's my suspicion it won't be recognized as "authentic" by the birds themselves. You can't just "make up" new syllables or sounds and have it be understood.

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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post #16

What if animals, including humans, share a basic language but over time, humans have lost the ability to understand our animal companions as our brains have optimized language processing for human communication since humans represent the greatest threat to their individual survival? What if we are the only ones who have no idea how to communicate with anyone not of the same species? What if other animals send ambassa…

Henry David Thoreau wrote about this premise. Birds apparently curse a lot.

I’m sure every animal only ever just says “Come fuck me!”, “Come feed me!” and “Go the fuck away!” or variations thereof.

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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What if animals, including humans, share a basic language but over time, humans have lost the ability to understand our animal companions as our brains have optimized language processing for human communication since humans represent the greatest threat to their individual survival? What if we are the only ones who have no idea how to communicate with anyone not of the same species? What if other animals send ambassa…

I tried repeating every vocal noise my cat made and soon found a noise that obviously meant "no!" After a few years of doing this we built up quite a vocabulary. He had a great sense of humor! It helped a lot that he was very vocal, he had an opinion about everything.

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Henry David Thoreau wrote about this premise. Birds apparently curse a lot.

Our parakeet had a huge vocabulary that it learned while listening to Mom as she did all the normal housework tasks. There wasn't much profanity involved until Mom demonstrated all the things she had taught the bird to say. After that, Dad and the rest of us saw the awesome potential and began working to expand his vocabulary. Cowboy Bird. Thrilled us all with his ramblings. "I'm a genu-wine cowboy bird, giddy-up, gi…

Thanks for the guide to your interesting pets.

If they can put sentences together like that, I imagine Parakeets can probably talk to each other.

If not in the wild, then if they have been educated with humans I'd guess they'd talk to each other in the same human type manner.

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