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Re: Inside a viral website

#101

> As was pointed out in a quote tweet by the Vercel CEO, the problem wasn’t Next.js at all, but the Vesselfinder embedded map taking a while to load (because everyone wanted to check the Ever Given’s status) That was an opportunity, to cache the map as an image, and switch it later to the proper map.

But is it worth the trouble for a meme site that won’t be relevant in a week? There are probably more fun things to do with your time.

Re: Inside a viral website

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post #86

One thing I don't understand about monetizing on the Internet. I see the author considered ads, tried an affiliate scheme and even did an NFT. But what about plain old, honest to God payment? Couldn't they just put a paragraph of text on the site, "Hey folks, I'm worried about hosting costs, if you find this page useful, please [Donate]", with a button redirecting to Paypal or Stripe or whatever, collect the money an…

For the last 10 years or so I've been running a free-to-use Morse Code online radio thing. It has cost me about $1000 to host so far, and has a couple of hundred DAUs. The users are not shy about feature requests, and they're not shy about complaining that I haven't implemented their feature requests. So I made a pledge to the userbase that if they collectively donate $1000 to the site, I'll start working on v2. I po…

Not to criticize you in any way, but I've found that asking me for financial support works in some cases and those are because I felt the "humanness" of the creator. I remember this author that put up a video of her unboxing first batch of her newly released book (and being excited about it). The person went from a name on a webpage or face in a video to a human being immediately (in my mind). I don't really have the words to precisely describe what I mean.

Re: Inside a viral website

#104

One thing I don't understand about monetizing on the Internet. I see the author considered ads, tried an affiliate scheme and even did an NFT. But what about plain old, honest to God payment? Couldn't they just put a paragraph of text on the site, "Hey folks, I'm worried about hosting costs, if you find this page useful, please [Donate]", with a button redirecting to Paypal or Stripe or whatever, collect the money an…

>They had 50 million views. If 0.01% of these visitors left a dollar, the author would've still come up way ahead over all the crazy schemes, even post-tax.

IMHO that is a fallacy. Although %0.01 looks like a really small number there's no reason for it for not being %0.001 or %0.000001. When people do napkin math , it's a common theme to say that "If we only capture %1 of the market we would be $$$rich$$$" and they proceed to find out that there are smaller percentiles than %1.

To receive donations people need to be sympathetic to you or your cause. You need to actively sell it, making it a considerable part of the user experience.

It's really hard to build that relationship with just one visit. Maybe there are visitors deeply invested in the situation and they may actually obsess with your product but you need to look into the analytics to see if it's the case. If there are visitors that appear to be visiting extremely frequently, you need to explore ways to ask for the money and for that you will need data(profiles of the visitors) to develop your message however the OP doesn't do detailed analytics and profiling. It could be possible to monetise it and even catch a few whales but chances are that you can also alienate those people with the wrong messaging, so you probably will need to do personalisation which requires data and cookies and what not, which means data collection and sharing permission popups.

Of course you can try your chances and pick a group of people that you believe are using your product and proceed with A/B testing etc instead of profiling. If you happen to choose the privacy nerds as a target you will find out how much the privacy nerds like donating.

Re: Inside a viral website

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the last 10 years or so I've been running a free-to-use Morse Code online radio thing. It has cost me about $1000 to host so far, and has a couple of hundred DAUs. The users are not shy about feature requests, and they're not shy about complaining that I haven't implemented their feature requests. So I made a pledge to the userbase that if they collectively donate $1000 to the site, I'll start working on v2. I po…

I don't know, I always feel like there has to be some reward to incentivize people, even if it's dead simple. Like, you can choose to have your name publicly displayed on a thank you page (this would work well with BMAC, since donations can be both anonymous and not), or have your username be of different colour or have some badge next to it. But then again, I don't know how I would fit that into this meme page, and…

I’ve run a few donation schemes and those things don’t do much. People just don’t donate.

Subscriptions are the best, but obv that won’t work for a meme page.

Re: Inside a viral website

#106

One thing I don't understand about monetizing on the Internet. I see the author considered ads, tried an affiliate scheme and even did an NFT. But what about plain old, honest to God payment? Couldn't they just put a paragraph of text on the site, "Hey folks, I'm worried about hosting costs, if you find this page useful, please [Donate]", with a button redirecting to Paypal or Stripe or whatever, collect the money an…

Hey, if it was a $10 donation they’d only need 0.001% of users and for $100 just 0.0001%.

/s

Re: Inside a viral website

#107

One thing I don't understand about monetizing on the Internet. I see the author considered ads, tried an affiliate scheme and even did an NFT. But what about plain old, honest to God payment? Couldn't they just put a paragraph of text on the site, "Hey folks, I'm worried about hosting costs, if you find this page useful, please [Donate]", with a button redirecting to Paypal or Stripe or whatever, collect the money an…

Hmm, if was a $10 donation they’d only need 0.001% of users and for $100 just 0.0001%. Boom!!

But yeah 1/1000 people are not going to randomly pay for something with a market price of $0.

Re: Inside a viral website

#108
> Instead of ads, I thought I would try and sell an NFT of the page [...] In the end it was successful, selling for just over $200

... It was at this point in the read that I got very excited and broke away from the article to research "NFTs"[1] - because I've been known to create digital art[2] and I've even written a JS library to help people create digital art[3] (kinda). Luckily I got interrupted during my research and, once the interruption completed, I returned to the article rather than my research tabs - which were closed pretty quickly after the read completed.

> Most of the things I’ve posted [to Twitter] are liked exclusively by my colleagues, my Mum and my ex-flatmate. It’s screaming into the void.

My Mother doesn't do social media. I doubt she'd approve of the words I choose to scream.

[1] https://www.creativebloq.com/features/what-are-nfts - "NFTs use a monster amount of energy in their creation. So much so that many protesters are worried about the very real impact the craze could have on the environment" ... this is seriously scary; it puts me off the whole idea of trying to monetise my creative work in this way.

[2] https://codepen.io/collection/DmgxKv - my collection of generative art on CodePen

[3] https://scrawl-v8.rikweb.org.uk/

Re: Inside a viral website

#109
post #86

One thing I don't understand about monetizing on the Internet. I see the author considered ads, tried an affiliate scheme and even did an NFT. But what about plain old, honest to God payment? Couldn't they just put a paragraph of text on the site, "Hey folks, I'm worried about hosting costs, if you find this page useful, please [Donate]", with a button redirecting to Paypal or Stripe or whatever, collect the money an…

For the last 10 years or so I've been running a free-to-use Morse Code online radio thing. It has cost me about $1000 to host so far, and has a couple of hundred DAUs. The users are not shy about feature requests, and they're not shy about complaining that I haven't implemented their feature requests. So I made a pledge to the userbase that if they collectively donate $1000 to the site, I'll start working on v2. I po…

Have you considered some sort of conditional pledging system?

That was part of the original allure of Kickstarter: participants agreed to contribute money -- but they only had to pay it if the total pledged amount reached a certain threshold. That way, contributors got some assurance that they're not wasting their money and that any project they fund has some level of viability.

So maybe, in your case, you could ask the users to donate some amount of money -- but they wouldn't have to actually pay it unless you reached your $1,000 funding goal.

Re: Inside a viral website

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post #39

>Instead of ads, I thought I would try and sell an NFT of the page. I’d read a fair amount about NFTs (both good and bad), and I was a mix of sceptical and curious. I thought this would be an interesting and weird opportunity to try it out myself. Added to this, it could be a fun meta-meme. I thought it would be fun to be the first meme website to sell itself as an NFT. I don't quite understand, what was sold here ex…

I think he's just playing around/being cheeky with all this stuff, so I don't think it was ever meant to stand up to robust scrutiny :>

I completely get that, but I was thinking from the point of view of the person who decided to put $200 into the joke.
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