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Girls and dolls in the Roman Empire

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Re: Girls and dolls in the Roman Empire

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This article does the difficult job of actually saying nothing interesting but still giving the impression that it holds some great newly discovered insight about Roman doll playing.

It just specifically lists how children could play with those dolls, not all articles must have "newly discovered insights". For example, I didn't know they had such precisely made and articulated dolls in those times.

Re: Girls and dolls in the Roman Empire

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post #3
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This article does the difficult job of actually saying nothing interesting but still giving the impression that it holds some great newly discovered insight about Roman doll playing.

It just specifically lists how children could play with those dolls, not all articles must have "newly discovered insights". For example, I didn't know they had such precisely made and articulated dolls in those times.

I always wonder what kids could play with in other time periods. I guess that woodwork always was pretty excellent, so there could be all sorts of stuff that is lost by now.

Re: Girls and dolls in the Roman Empire

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It just specifically lists how children could play with those dolls, not all articles must have "newly discovered insights". For example, I didn't know they had such precisely made and articulated dolls in those times.

I always wonder what kids could play with in other time periods. I guess that woodwork always was pretty excellent, so there could be all sorts of stuff that is lost by now.

There's an interesting note on this in "The World Until Yesterday" by Jared Diamond about traditional societies (typically he's talking about pre-contact primitive humans). Many children fashioned their own toys after the real tools/equipment/vehicles used by the adults in their lives.

Re: Girls and dolls in the Roman Empire

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It just specifically lists how children could play with those dolls, not all articles must have "newly discovered insights". For example, I didn't know they had such precisely made and articulated dolls in those times.

I always wonder what kids could play with in other time periods. I guess that woodwork always was pretty excellent, so there could be all sorts of stuff that is lost by now.

I always found the quite interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South-pointing_chariot

Re: Girls and dolls in the Roman Empire

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If anyone wants to dive more into the wooden doll world, The Miyagi kokeshi doll - https://kogeijapan.com/locale/en_US/miyagidentokokeshi/ although not as old as this Roman one is interesting. Here is a 3m30s video on who they make them by hand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8uRxvm6sUs

Re: Girls and dolls in the Roman Empire

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The article currently confuses two dolls. The top image matches its caption link[1], but not its caption text. The pictured "Grottarossa" doll, was buried by the via Appia near Rome, with a mummified 2nd-century ~12-year old girl. The caption text's "Illustration of the Ancient Roman doll of Crepereia Tryphaena" refers to a similar doll[2] from another 2nd C. sarcophagus in Rome.

I used the former in a video fragment on remembering scale - like Powers-of-Ten, but with 1000x chunks. "How do we play with things that are too big to play with? Like cars, and people, and trains? We use scale models. Like dolls, and toy ..., but with more zoom." Buildings view (1 mm:m); real world; micro view (1 mm:um - red blood cells are M&Ms); nano view (1 mm:nm - atoms are sand). I should get back to that someday.

[1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Roman_ivory_doll_fro... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Crepereia_Tryphaena-2.png

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