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Re: Inside a viral website

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Post by kevinstubbs »

tomjohnneill wrote: post #22
kevinstubbs wrote: post #18

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Hey, I run an ad tech company. Our targets for US traffic are about $10 USD per thousand page views. This is multiples more than what you would get from AdSense, plus we help with strategy and integration. Besides that, the author did mention several things he tried besides ad monetization. I think the most effective thing would have been to either find an opportunistic brand that wants to advertise here (like a mari…

Damn I wish you hadn't posted. Ah well.

LOL, interesting response. Well feel free to reach out to me (check my profile) and let me know why. I'm very curious :)

Re: Inside a viral website

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Post by TeMPOraL »

twox2 wrote: post #63
TeMPOraL wrote: post #55

One thing I don't understand about monetizing on the Internet. I see the author considered ads, tried an affiliate scheme and even did an NFT. But what about plain old, honest to God payment? Couldn't they just put a paragraph of text on the site, "Hey folks, I'm worried about hosting costs, if you find this page useful, please [Donate]", with a button redirecting to Paypal or Stripe or whatever, collect the money an…

Who would pay $1 for getting a chuckle out of a meme? Also 50 million views is not 50 million visitors. If he had a normal ad monetization channel in place, he should have easily been able to garnish a minimum of a 10 cent CPM and walked away with at least $5k from his 15 minutes of fame. The problem is that learning as you go makes it a little too late to monetize the peak. There are companies whose entire business…

I would, particularly if the blurb was very honest (or very creative). I have no trouble throwing someone even a one-time $5 if the website is funny enough.

Re: Inside a viral website

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Post by egfx »

jordansmith wrote: post #35
inetknght wrote: post #33

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Oh, no definitely not. Nope. There's no way that a company can see that you've purchased Some Things within the past 24 hours and definitely can't correlate those purchases with receipts. Nope that's not a thing. Definitely not. No way at all. Especially since companies aren't owned by parent companies. That would totally be impossible. /s

Correct. As the affiliate blog you see nothing involving receipts or personal info for purchasers. It’s just a jumble of all your referral purchases

Unrelated but on Amazon is it possible to get order details if you have an order ID? You used to be able to scrape email for details but now you just get the ID itself.

Re: Inside a viral website

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Post by oefrha »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #67
oefrha wrote: post #65

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If my developer tool with thousands of stars on GitHub generates $15/yr in donations, I would say 0.01% of visitors each donating $1 to a website they on average spend 1 minute or less on (seems a reasonable assumption?) is far too optimistic.

Can you give any other metric for its popularity? Stars aren't a good one - Github stars are bookmarks , not a reflection of whether one actually uses a given repository. Personally, I have 301 starred repositories, of which I maybe use... 5?

I'd say a repo needs more than 150k views to get ~5k stars. I can confidently say the number of users who derive actual value from it is measured in the hundreds at least (compared to none on a viral meme site). If those views aren't generating 0.01% * $1, I can bet the house on viral meme site not generating that much, unless they happen to land very generous donors.

Edit: Just checked Homebrew analytics. >10k recorded installs in the past year (low single digit number of releases during that period, no major publicity event). I don't have readily available analytics for other installation channels on macOS, or analytics for Linux and Windows which are pretty fractured. Point is the user base is sizable.

Re: Inside a viral website

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Post by spijdar »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #67
oefrha wrote: post #65

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If my developer tool with thousands of stars on GitHub generates $15/yr in donations, I would say 0.01% of visitors each donating $1 to a website they on average spend 1 minute or less on (seems a reasonable assumption?) is far too optimistic.

Can you give any other metric for its popularity? Stars aren't a good one - Github stars are bookmarks , not a reflection of whether one actually uses a given repository. Personally, I have 301 starred repositories, of which I maybe use... 5?

I think regardless of how good a metric stars are, it's still more likely to receive donations than a meme site about a recent event.

I can't remember ever hearing someone talk about how successful their donation button was. I can remember plenty of people describing how few people ever click it, though...

Re: Inside a viral website

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Post by pjc50 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #72
twox2 wrote: post #63

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Who would pay $1 for getting a chuckle out of a meme? Also 50 million views is not 50 million visitors. If he had a normal ad monetization channel in place, he should have easily been able to garnish a minimum of a 10 cent CPM and walked away with at least $5k from his 15 minutes of fame. The problem is that learning as you go makes it a little too late to monetize the peak. There are companies whose entire business…

I would, particularly if the blurb was very honest (or very creative). I have no trouble throwing someone even a one-time $5 if the website is funny enough.

How often do you do this per month?

How many webpages do you read per month?

Now divide one by the other.

Re: Inside a viral website

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Post by colpabar »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #72
twox2 wrote: post #63

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Who would pay $1 for getting a chuckle out of a meme? Also 50 million views is not 50 million visitors. If he had a normal ad monetization channel in place, he should have easily been able to garnish a minimum of a 10 cent CPM and walked away with at least $5k from his 15 minutes of fame. The problem is that learning as you go makes it a little too late to monetize the peak. There are companies whose entire business…

I would, particularly if the blurb was very honest (or very creative). I have no trouble throwing someone even a one-time $5 if the website is funny enough.

Unfortunately you are in the extreme minority. I was watching a stream on youtube that has an optional patreon subscription and people were complaining that $0.99 per MONTH was too much because the stream was too quiet for a bit.

Paying directly for things you like on the internet doesn't seem like a big deal to us here on HN, but the overwhelming majority of people will never even consider it. Everything else is free, why should anyone have to pay for anything?

Re: Inside a viral website

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Post by rebelde »

twox2 wrote: post #63
TeMPOraL wrote: post #55

One thing I don't understand about monetizing on the Internet. I see the author considered ads, tried an affiliate scheme and even did an NFT. But what about plain old, honest to God payment? Couldn't they just put a paragraph of text on the site, "Hey folks, I'm worried about hosting costs, if you find this page useful, please [Donate]", with a button redirecting to Paypal or Stripe or whatever, collect the money an…

Who would pay $1 for getting a chuckle out of a meme? Also 50 million views is not 50 million visitors. If he had a normal ad monetization channel in place, he should have easily been able to garnish a minimum of a 10 cent CPM and walked away with at least $5k from his 15 minutes of fame. The problem is that learning as you go makes it a little too late to monetize the peak. There are companies whose entire business…

> he should have easily been able to garnish a minimum of a 10 cent CPM

Uh, not in my experience. I haven't tried to monetize a site like this, but I would expect a CPM around 1 cent. Still, times 50 million, it isn't nothing.

Re: Inside a viral website

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Post by artembugara »

kevinstubbs wrote: post #71
tomjohnneill wrote: post #22

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Damn I wish you hadn't posted. Ah well.

LOL, interesting response. Well feel free to reach out to me (check my profile) and let me know why. I'm very curious :)

I think it's because he is the creator of that website. And he missed all that value.

Re: Inside a viral website

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Post by kamel3d »

pjmorris wrote: post #15
cyberlab wrote: post #9

> A single-purpose website The more fashionable term is Single Serving Site[0], and is a phrase originally coined by Jason Kottke. You can find more of these types of sites here: https://www.reddit.com/r/InternetIsBeautiful/ [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-serving_site

I first saw 'single serving friend' in Fight Club [0], do you think the idea was lifted from there? [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1iQp8g9SQo

in 2016 I made a single serving website it's only purpose is to copy emojis to your clipboard, it is kinda popular now it gets 6K users a day but moste of the visits are from Russia so it is a bit hard to monetise www.emojilo.com
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