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Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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What if animals, including humans, share a basic language but over time, humans have lost the ability to understand our animal companions as our brains have optimized language processing for human communication since humans represent the greatest threat to their individual survival?

What if we are the only ones who have no idea how to communicate with anyone not of the same species?

What if other animals send ambassadors to us constantly in the hopes that they will find one human who can understand their language well enough so that the issues facing the rest of the animal kingdom have a voice with those powerful enough to enact meaningful change?

When my cat started each morning with a meow that sounded amazingly close to "Hello!" did it know what it was saying and did it use that word as a tool to get a specific response?

What was that crow trying to tell me that day?

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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I've always wanted to do this with dolphins. Basically shift human language into the range of sounds they can produce, and have a reverse path so that sounds they make can be heard in a range a human could make. Then you raise a young dolphin in a 'bilingual' environment. With humans speaking to and playing with the calf while their speech is shifted, and any vocalizations by the adults or calf shifted into a range e…

You may be interested in reading up on Margaret Howe Lovatt[1]:

> In the 1960s, she took part in a NASA-funded research project in which she attempted to teach a dolphin named Peter to understand and mimic human speech.

There are several articles and podcasts which can provide more detail.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Howe_Lovatt

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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I've always wanted to do this with dolphins. Basically shift human language into the range of sounds they can produce, and have a reverse path so that sounds they make can be heard in a range a human could make. Then you raise a young dolphin in a 'bilingual' environment. With humans speaking to and playing with the calf while their speech is shifted, and any vocalizations by the adults or calf shifted into a range e…

This is actually a really interesting idea.

But then again we hear dogs and cats and still don't understand them. But i guess we can't smell like them either

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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What if animals, including humans, share a basic language but over time, humans have lost the ability to understand our animal companions as our brains have optimized language processing for human communication since humans represent the greatest threat to their individual survival? What if we are the only ones who have no idea how to communicate with anyone not of the same species? What if other animals send ambassa…

Very well put.

Btw there is a posting before about whale and it’s changing strategy due to the whaler is very different.

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post #14

What if animals, including humans, share a basic language but over time, humans have lost the ability to understand our animal companions as our brains have optimized language processing for human communication since humans represent the greatest threat to their individual survival? What if we are the only ones who have no idea how to communicate with anyone not of the same species? What if other animals send ambassa…

Very well put. Btw there is a posting before about whale and it’s changing strategy due to the whaler is very different.

Thanks. Whales are fascinating animals. Every time I see a photo of a whale's eye I am struck by the feeling that the animal is probably smarter than the photographer.

I feel that other animals maintain a complex inter-species communication network that we have evolved to lock ourselves out of once our own capacity to destroy larger, more dangerous animals developed to the point where the main threat to our own survival came from other humans.

Our senses optimized to detect and interpret those signals that come from the largest hazard to our own existence. We still have the ability to recognize other species warning signals - growls from dogs, roars from lions and bears, etc. but we no longer natively understand the content of the message, instead we can only interpret the context before taking any action.

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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What if animals, including humans, share a basic language but over time, humans have lost the ability to understand our animal companions as our brains have optimized language processing for human communication since humans represent the greatest threat to their individual survival? What if we are the only ones who have no idea how to communicate with anyone not of the same species? What if other animals send ambassa…

Henry David Thoreau wrote about this premise. Birds apparently curse a lot.

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What if animals, including humans, share a basic language but over time, humans have lost the ability to understand our animal companions as our brains have optimized language processing for human communication since humans represent the greatest threat to their individual survival? What if we are the only ones who have no idea how to communicate with anyone not of the same species? What if other animals send ambassa…

Henry David Thoreau wrote about this premise. Birds apparently curse a lot.

They have fowl language.

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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post #16

What if animals, including humans, share a basic language but over time, humans have lost the ability to understand our animal companions as our brains have optimized language processing for human communication since humans represent the greatest threat to their individual survival? What if we are the only ones who have no idea how to communicate with anyone not of the same species? What if other animals send ambassa…

Henry David Thoreau wrote about this premise. Birds apparently curse a lot.

Our parakeet had a huge vocabulary that it learned while listening to Mom as she did all the normal housework tasks. There wasn't much profanity involved until Mom demonstrated all the things she had taught the bird to say. After that, Dad and the rest of us saw the awesome potential and began working to expand his vocabulary. Cowboy Bird. Thrilled us all with his ramblings.

"I'm a genu-wine cowboy bird, giddy-up, giddy-up, giddy-up horsey!"

That was one of his most common pronouncements. Mom taught him to say that.

"I'm a jabberwocky bird."

"Stop that, Bear!"

Bear was our dog. He originally hated the attention that the bird got and once leaped into the air as the bird flew past and caught him in his mouth. We watched for a second as Bear looked triumphantly at us, wings and tail feathers all you could see of the old Cowboy Bird.

Mom rushed in to save the bird, slapping the dog across the nose so he would release it. From that point on the dog carefully guarded the bird since I think he understood that the bird was as much a valued member of the family as he was.

Cowboy Bird, upon being released was hilariously vocal about the ordeal.

"Dammit Bear! Stop that, Bear! Shit! Damn. Dammit Bear! I'm a jabberwocky bird!"

With his admonishments, he seemed to understand the context of the situation perfectly.

I think the bird also had a sense about who was present and able to hear him. He babbled constantly to anyone and almost everyone. There was one person, a friend of my mother's, who despite visiting numerous times never heard the bird say anything. Cowboy Bird was totally muted every time she visited. When she would call on the telephone, the bird stopped talking until the phone call ended. Mom used to try to coax the bird to talk since she had bragged about the bird's large vocabulary so many times but she was never able to get the bird to say a word as long as the friend was in a position to hear. Once the friend was no longer in earshot, Cowboy Bird resumed the verbalizing.

Dad had a crow for a pet as a kid. He taught it to talk though I don't remember how large a vocabulary it had.

My cat, as mentioned earlier, started every morning with a "Hello" until you opened the door and fed her or petted her. When she needed anything, she would pace by the door saying "Hello". She spent more than a year in the shelter before we rescued her. She was an older cat then and has since passed on to her next opportunity. I hope she spends less time in a shelter this time around. Second sweetest cat ever. Mice, birds, lizards, and bugs trembled with fear when she wandered around.

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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What if animals, including humans, share a basic language but over time, humans have lost the ability to understand our animal companions as our brains have optimized language processing for human communication since humans represent the greatest threat to their individual survival? What if we are the only ones who have no idea how to communicate with anyone not of the same species? What if other animals send ambassa…

I love to think about this.
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