Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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Post by zdw » Mon, Mar 29, 2021, 6:46 PM UTC

Speech to Birdsong Conversion
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Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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Post by Scaevolus » Mon, Mar 29, 2021, 10:40 PM UTC

There's a "Turkish bird-language" that's whistled, and dying out now that cellphones are available. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_bird_language

Hear it here: https://youtu.be/l117wfB0g3o

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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Post by EvanAnderson » Tue, Mar 30, 2021, 2:46 AM UTC

My cat went nuts for that. "Entertainment for cats." is right. She's still looking for the bird.

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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Post by shellfishgene » Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 9:52 AM UTC

Scaevolus wrote: post #2

There's a "Turkish bird-language" that's whistled, and dying out now that cellphones are available. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_bird_language Hear it here: https://youtu.be/l117wfB0g3o

I didn't know there were so many of those! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistled_language

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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Post by danirod » Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 10:00 AM UTC

Scaevolus wrote: post #2

There's a "Turkish bird-language" that's whistled, and dying out now that cellphones are available. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_bird_language Hear it here: https://youtu.be/l117wfB0g3o

The Silbo Gomero [1] in the Canary Islands falls in this category as well. It was designed to allow far distance communication through the valleys and ravines of the islands. Here [2] is an example.

There are now efforts to preserve the language, but there is a whole generation unable to speak it because cellphones and lack of farmers made the language almost obsolete.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silbo_Gomero [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Silbo.ogg

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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Post by tgv » Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 10:15 AM UTC

It's a bit like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprechgesang, but removing the phonetic information makes it more musical.

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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Post by ISL » Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 10:38 AM UTC

Think of the possibilities: A simultaneous interpreter for talking to birds.

This brings to mind a Gary Larson cartoon:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c1TTxKbgueE/TZ_zI1E3urI/AAAAAAAAI...

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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Post by ginko » Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 10:58 AM UTC

ISL wrote: post #7

Think of the possibilities: A simultaneous interpreter for talking to birds. This brings to mind a Gary Larson cartoon: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-c1TTxKbgueE/TZ_zI1E3urI/AAAAAAAAI...

I was thinking of this one: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/springtime

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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Post by vanderZwan » Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 11:27 AM UTC

Might be fun to try it out with people with different accents, and see if other people can recognize the accent in the birdsong (without knowing which it is).

Re: Speech to Birdsong Conversion

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Post by iandanforth » Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 12:09 PM UTC

I've always wanted to do this with dolphins. Basically shift human language into the range of sounds they can produce, and have a reverse path so that sounds they make can be heard in a range a human could make. Then you raise a young dolphin in a 'bilingual' environment. With humans speaking to and playing with the calf while their speech is shifted, and any vocalizations by the adults or calf shifted into a range easy for humans to mimic back.

Basically my thesis is that understanding is possible and that it's facilitated by being able to produce as well as hear a given vocalization.