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Re: Copyright infringement by German contact tracing app

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Post by zeepzeep »

dgellow wrote: post #21
durnygbur wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> dream scenario of a new location registry of every move of the population Not only politicians, I assume entities like Rundfunkbeitrag, Schufa, conuntless Inkasso will pay fortune to access such data. > Very low corruption at the lower level of society [...] Incredible high amount of corruption and incompetence in the higher spheres This is incredibly shocking for an newcomer to Germany. One swiftly hits the ceilin…

> Rundfunkbeitrag They already get your location (edit: I mean address here) when you register to the local administration (Anmeldebescheinigung).

Address != location.

My address is no secret, where I was last friday night (and tuesday morning) is.

Re: Copyright infringement by German contact tracing app

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Post by zeepzeep »

makepanic wrote: post #10
Tomte wrote: post #3

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This is an official tracing app in several states in Germany, and probably soon in all of Germany. You're talking about the older Corona Warn App which does similar things (and is generally considered too limited), but without direct data transfer to public health authorities. That's what the Luca app does. Warn App is more for chance encounters tracking a person meeting other people. Luca is more for checking in and…

The cwa app will support event registration in the next version too. See https://github.com/corona-warn-app/cwa-documentation/blob/ma... for details on how they do it.

They always said they could have easily integrated Luca like features but no, ofc we need to pick the option with millions of marketing money behind it instead of waiting for a privacy focused version.

Re: Copyright infringement by German contact tracing app

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Post by chefkoch »

dgellow wrote: post #19
onli wrote: post #12

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Luca is a cash grab, and maybe more sinister. Since the CWA - the official contact tracing app - switched to not collecting a central database that could be misused we have conservative politicians firing against it. "We give too much importance to data privacy", of course without being able to mention a single feature that the privacy protecting app is missing. Now Luca arrived, with some semi-prominent advocates, a…

> (you will never see a bribe in everyday life) That's not true, you can see lot of small bribes in normal day-to-day transactions. Almost every single technician I met (for internet installation, electricity, washing machine installation, etc. Even insurance brokers) offered me to pay them cash directly to get some benefits or falsify some recorded data.

I'm born here and lived here all my life and this has never happened to me.

Re: Copyright infringement by German contact tracing app

#35

Post by dgellow »

zeepzeep wrote: post #31
dgellow wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Rundfunkbeitrag They already get your location (edit: I mean address here) when you register to the local administration (Anmeldebescheinigung).

Address != location. My address is no secret, where I was last friday night (and tuesday morning) is.

Sure, but the Rundfunkbeitrag has no need for your current location, they just need to know which apartment you're registered at.

Re: Copyright infringement by German contact tracing app

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Post by read_if_gay_ »

heckerhut wrote: post #13

Oh the irony. The LUCA app has been co-initiated and financed by Smudo [0], a famous German rapper. He was a supporter of Metallica suing Napster back in 2000 for copyright violation [1]. [0] https://www.chip.de/news/Kontaktverfolgung-mit-Luca-App-von-... [1] https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Smudo-vs-Napster-Da-...

It has been 21 years. Can we let the past go?

Re: Copyright infringement by German contact tracing app

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Post by fsflover »

read_if_gay_ wrote: post #36
heckerhut wrote: post #13

Oh the irony. The LUCA app has been co-initiated and financed by Smudo [0], a famous German rapper. He was a supporter of Metallica suing Napster back in 2000 for copyright violation [1]. [0] https://www.chip.de/news/Kontaktverfolgung-mit-Luca-App-von-... [1] https://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Smudo-vs-Napster-Da-...

It has been 21 years . Can we let the past go?

Yes, if you show that his opinions have changed.

Re: Copyright infringement by German contact tracing app

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Post by luckylion »

chefkoch wrote: post #34
dgellow wrote: post #19

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> (you will never see a bribe in everyday life) That's not true, you can see lot of small bribes in normal day-to-day transactions. Almost every single technician I met (for internet installation, electricity, washing machine installation, etc. Even insurance brokers) offered me to pay them cash directly to get some benefits or falsify some recorded data.

I'm born here and lived here all my life and this has never happened to me.

Same for the first two, but not the last. It's somewhat common for craftsmen to work "off the books" on smaller private contracts. It's a trade-off because obviously it's hard to claim liability when you have no proof they even worked on it and no contract specifying the work to be done. It's even more common in larger construction projects.

Unreported work/income is estimated at about 10% of GDP: https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/20063/umfrage...

Re: Copyright infringement by German contact tracing app

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Post by dgellow »

chefkoch wrote: post #34
dgellow wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (you will never see a bribe in everyday life) That's not true, you can see lot of small bribes in normal day-to-day transactions. Almost every single technician I met (for internet installation, electricity, washing machine installation, etc. Even insurance brokers) offered me to pay them cash directly to get some benefits or falsify some recorded data.

I'm born here and lived here all my life and this has never happened to me.

That's not too surprising IMHO, I would expect this to be more visible to foreigners. I myself have never seen any type of low-level corruption in my home country but I learnt that also happens quite often, it's just not too visible if you don't know where to look at.

I'm not from Germany, and do have a foreign name, I guess that may play a role.

Re: Copyright infringement by German contact tracing app

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Post by surfsvammel »

zeepzeep wrote: post #28
raverbashing wrote: post #23

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Irony? It's only "copyright infringement" if you don't have enough money for lawyers That being said, Bubelich should definitely sue

> it's only "copyright infringement" if you don't have enough money for lawyers "If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower class."

Not of the fine is set to be a ratio or proportion of your wealth or income.
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