I wonder if the CCP will similarly re-educate the people of Taiwan. Dont they have a 9 year timeline to invade it? We should look for a new place to build our chip fabs...
No, you just found a new place to build your missile bases.
BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)
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> do it inside their own borders True, which is why the politicians(including us consumers) all turn our blind eyes on those victims inside China, if everything can be CONTAINED and remains INSIDE, however they FAILED(purposely or not) with COVID with this pandemic today everything has begin to change for better or worst
How did the Chinese fail to contain Covid, when serological tests showed that the virus was already present in the United States, in Seattle, back in December 2019?
We still don’t know if it was in the United States earlier than this, because the American authorities refuse to investigate it.
And it was already present in Europe, in Italy and Spain, in November 2019. So it was detected in Europe, after the fact, before it was even known in China.
So, given this information, how is this China’s fault, when they themselves discovered and isolated the virus in December 2019?
Can you please use some mental gymnastics here to help us all understand how this is all China’s fault?
What if instead, the virus came in from elsewhere, but China got hit the hardest first, but their disease tracking system was the first to actually detect the virus? Because apparently, the rest of the western countries all failed to detect it.
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This is actually an interesting question.
The western countries are accusing China of fake genocide here, such as suppressing the Uyghur culture, their language, their food, their clothing, even their haircuts.
But yet, H&M is a western brand, that sells jeans and T-shirt, which are western style clothes.
So, if the Uyghurs are buying and wearing H&M clothes, instead of traditional Uyghur clothes, then they are in effect genociding themselves.
So therefore, H&M and the West, are in effect, helping to genocide Uyghur culture.
The funny thing also, is that one of the most famous Chinese actresses right now, is Dilraba Dilmurat, of the Uyghur ethnicity. And she is rising in stardom in the Chinese entertainment world.
So if the Chinese are really trying to genocide the Uyghurs, then I highly doubt they’d let a Uyghur girl rise up too far in their entertainment culture.
Can you imagine the Nazis promoting Jews in their films? That is the analogy here.
Something to think about.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
We got South Africa to end apartheid without war. Let's try a boycott before getting all hot with a major nuclear power, right?
Comparing the prc to south africa makes as much sense as me saying war between the usa and china is no biggie because the usa quickly won in Granada.
The CCP are quite image conscious. All people are really asking is that they treat the Uighurs in a normal manner rather than trying to overthrow the CCP.
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>wouldn't have done anything about the Nazi Holocaust if Germany hadn't invaded Poland and France.
I'm sure there would have been sanctions and the like.
Re: BBC: The cost of speaking up against China (Uyghurs)
#76Anyone care to say what they believe should be done, or is this just another mad about things thread? Anyone have ideas? What is the solution?
Stop buying things from China - look for alternatives. Next time you buy something major look into where it is sourced. If there is something you buy a lot of from China look for an alternative.
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#77Anyone care to say what they believe should be done, or is this just another mad about things thread? Anyone have ideas? What is the solution?
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It's very likely that economic sanctions will cause more harm to the Chinese than the harm done to the Uyghurs, and has a poor record of it's intended regime change. They are not a solution to a humanitarian crisis.
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#78Wow somebody came in and downvoted EVERYBODY in this thread. Five cent army, assemble!
This is not the right attitude. People should be allowed to participate, and they can downvote whenever they see fit.
That's not participation, that's violating community protocols. Downvote is not used to show that you disagree but that the reply is low effort, inflammatory etc.
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is way beyond being "controversial". First thing probably, HN team can investigate all China related posts and gather users who flagged these posts and take action accordingly.
What if some of those people are on the HN team?
Eventually HN would lose (some of) its appeal. And if it would bug enough people a new forum would see a huge influx of people.
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#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
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It's very likely that economic sanctions will cause more harm to the Chinese than the harm done to the Uyghurs, and has a poor record of it's intended regime change. They are not a solution to a humanitarian crisis.
It's intention is not regime change. It's directly making slave labor unprofitable. Sure it's a whack-a-mole of sorts, but it at least makes things clear for everyone involved.
So usually Joe Rando does not care when he is shopping, but at least he can't and doesn't fund more labor camps indirectly.