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The Business of Scenery: Why America’s national parks need new management

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Re: The Business of Scenery: Why America’s national parks need new management

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Get rid of scenic drives/viewpoints and park attendance would crater. Most trails that are more than a few miles long are rarely busy.

Also ban smartphones. This would repel the other 50% who are only there with their narcisticks taking selfies for their Insta.

nah it's too much of a problem in other areas, see the comment i made above.

we need to seriously raise the bar, socially. back in the dialup days we actually read the political stuff, actually contributed to interesting things, kind of like how the 60s was or punk was before the masses who are only interested in the hip factor got a hold of it and simply wore it as a fashion statement. then it died.

Re: The Business of Scenery: Why America’s national parks need new management

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post #4

Get rid of scenic drives/viewpoints and park attendance would crater. Most trails that are more than a few miles long are rarely busy.

Also ban smartphones. This would repel the other 50% who are only there with their narcisticks taking selfies for their Insta.

I'd bet that would repel more than 50%. Or maybe someone could write some deep fake tools that would help limit attendance.

They are amazing places to visit, but feel like we could preserve parks better if we enforced better self control somehow.

I also wonder how many are inspired to treat the environment better after a visit. Maybe those national park visits are a net positive for the environment.

Re: The Business of Scenery: Why America’s national parks need new management

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hipsters ruin everything literally my mantra whether it's last years riots from people wearing 20 dollar red fist shirts from amazon, or jan 6th insurrection by the dude wearing some funky horn helmet thing, or ariel pink, or the guy from vice starting the proud boys, or trump complaining about the mainstream, or fyre festival, or even once you add some edgelordism to it like lil nas x.... hipsters ruin everything. l…

Do what others are unwilling to do. Not sure if that's a quote, but it ought to be.

Re: The Business of Scenery: Why America’s national parks need new management

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We can have wilderness. The eliteness of this article really bothers me. Why should we be trying to make parks less appealing to people. Again we have wilderness preserves in which we preserve wilderness, letting people experience natural beauty is a different but also good thing

Putting asphalt roads and hotels in Yellowstone for example isn't really preserving the wilderness. Having hordes of people walk around and cause issues with bears/wolves/other local species isn't really preserving the wilderness. Etc.

In my experience people don't treat national parks with much respect.

Re: The Business of Scenery: Why America’s national parks need new management

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post #7

hipsters ruin everything literally my mantra whether it's last years riots from people wearing 20 dollar red fist shirts from amazon, or jan 6th insurrection by the dude wearing some funky horn helmet thing, or ariel pink, or the guy from vice starting the proud boys, or trump complaining about the mainstream, or fyre festival, or even once you add some edgelordism to it like lil nas x.... hipsters ruin everything. l…

What does this have to do with hipsters? Close to 400M visitors means this is the mainstream. Americans have flocked to their national parks since the first one opened.

> like frank zappa said... america is superficial. no real culture, no real art, just fads.

Jazz? Blues? Abstract Expressionism? Broadway?

Give me a break.

Re: The Business of Scenery: Why America’s national parks need new management

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hipsters ruin everything literally my mantra whether it's last years riots from people wearing 20 dollar red fist shirts from amazon, or jan 6th insurrection by the dude wearing some funky horn helmet thing, or ariel pink, or the guy from vice starting the proud boys, or trump complaining about the mainstream, or fyre festival, or even once you add some edgelordism to it like lil nas x.... hipsters ruin everything. l…

I regret to inform you of this, but, American culture is essentially world culture at this point
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