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Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Post by keidian »

jules wrote: post #67
singlow wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding is that the 1024 server will be on hardware shared by half as many VPSs as a 512. On both of them you get as much CPU as is available proportioned to each VPS. But with the 1024, you have half as many competitors for that CPU. You also have half as many competitors for IO. Disk space and Ram are the only things that are handed out in fixed quantities.

I see. In practice I'd expect the others on a node not to make full use of CPU, so you're getting more CPU for the same money on a 512 (unless they artificially limit it).

They don't limit it to any extent besides giving you access to 4 cores of the host instead of all of them

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Post by yummyfajitas »

mey wrote: post #62
trustfundbaby wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The cost of everything goes up over time. -------------------------- Except server costs and bandwidth, apparently ;)

Or house prices (oh wait that has direct relevance to rental unit costs)

Rental prices didn't go up much during the bubble, and they are not coming down much while it is bursting.

No reason they should - after all, price to buy incorporates the speculative value of a house while price to rent does not.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Post by codelust »

dragonquest wrote: post #9

Congrats to Linode, 8 years that's a long time. Which makes me wonder, was Linode the earliest or one of the earliest VPS hosting provider? I'm guessing in 2002 it wasn't that mature a market or was there already a few big players hovering about by the time Linode stepped in?

They were one of the earlier ones, but not the earliest. If my memory serves me right, a VPS as a viable option first gained publicity with Johncompanies.com, who were one of the early sponsors on kuro5hin.org following the famous DOS-attack on it. From the domain name registration it would appear that Johncompanies have been around since 2001, while linode.com was registered in 2003.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Post by cbf »

paraschopra wrote: post #45
callmeed wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have 25+ servers, aren't some of them in other data centers and configured in some sort of high-availability setup? What's your technology stack? (FYI, I'm asking purely out of curiosity)

We have a backup set of servers at a different data center as well. But routing traffic via DNS change to different data center isn't the best approach as some ISPs cache DNS and would still send traffic to old data center. A solution to this would be to have a round robin DNS to different data centers but that is still plagued if one data center develops a network issue. The only real solution to this is BGP routing…

But routing traffic via DNS change to different data center isn't the best approach as some ISPs cache DNS and would still send traffic to old data center.

All resolvers cache records for the TTL (or SOA minimum for negative lookups) specified by your authoritative servers.

A solution to this would be to have a round robin DNS to different data centers but that is still plagued if one data center develops a network issue.

If the clients are web browsers they will try the alternative addresses in a record set if the one they pick doesn't respond.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Post by code_duck »

cosgroveb wrote: post #40
code_duck wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I asked Linode support my 1 question ever in 2 years of business, the person really outdid himself in contacting me - followup, additional tips, checkups, etc. Really nice. For the iptables issue, did you try connecting to the server from lish? Same as with slicehost, when you're locked out the Ajax console can provide you with a shell on your server. Linode has lish too, though, which is an SSH connection to yo…

Yes, I used lish. The iptables answer they helped me with allowed me to restore ssh after I got in with lish.

Oh, I see. Guiding you to lish and through fixing iptables sounds like great service.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Post by code_duck »

trustfundbaby wrote: post #2

This is why I love Linode ... they do stuff like this, once a year or so and its so fantastic ... they upgraded me from a 328MB linode to 512MB last year for free ... now this ... I wish more companies would follow suit. It inspires loyalty in very subtle ways ... I was going to get a 512MB linode anyway, but with the money I saved, I added their backup service for $4.95 a month ... I couldn't imagine going anywhere…

I'm certainly happy with how pricing has gone there: start out half the price of slicehost, then add RAM and disk space every 6 months!

It's a competitive industry, though. I could see how price of a given allocation of computer resources tends to go down, like we're used to seeing with hardware.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Post by AgentConundrum »

paraschopra wrote: post #45
callmeed wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have 25+ servers, aren't some of them in other data centers and configured in some sort of high-availability setup? What's your technology stack? (FYI, I'm asking purely out of curiosity)

We have a backup set of servers at a different data center as well. But routing traffic via DNS change to different data center isn't the best approach as some ISPs cache DNS and would still send traffic to old data center. A solution to this would be to have a round robin DNS to different data centers but that is still plagued if one data center develops a network issue. The only real solution to this is BGP routing…

Forgive my ignorance, but isn't it normal to cache the DNS for 24 hours or so by default? I think it's typical (though I've never done it, so I'll apologize again if I'm talking out of my ass here) to drop the TTL down to basically nothing well ahead of the migration so that when you flip the switch, everyone will notice almost immediately, and then you can push the TTL back up to normal on the updated record.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Post by nasmorn »

What is so great about Linode that I would pay 3 times as much as on german hoster http://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produktmatrix_vserver/vserver-...

Sure the website is in german, traffic is not unlimited but I have used them for more than a year now and service is totally fine.

Edit: Prices include VAT, so the 1024 comes out to 15 USD without taxes, which is 12% more than a third, but still.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Post by deno »

nasmorn wrote: post #88

What is so great about Linode that I would pay 3 times as much as on german hoster http://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produktmatrix_vserver/vserver-... Sure the website is in german, traffic is not unlimited but I have used them for more than a year now and service is totally fine. Edit: Prices include VAT, so the 1024 comes out to 15 USD without taxes, which is 12% more than a third, but still.

Website is available in English. You should have no problem communicating in English with their customer support, as well. Also, it's KVM based, in case anyone is wondering.

Re: Linode turns 8; Disk space +25%

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Post by ajtaylor »

zedpm wrote: post #55
eli wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Rackspace Cloud more expensive? Or are you just talking about storage? I think for many people, RAM and CPU become an issue long before disk space.

Unlike Linode, Rackspace Cloud decouples the server pricing from the bandwidth pricing. A base server on Rackspace is cheap and it remains so if you use very little bandwidth. If you calculate the Rackspace cost using the maximum bandwidth bundled with a comparable Linode VPS then Rackspace is indeed more expensive.

Don't forget the flat $100/mo account fee for any month you have servers active too. Based on my reading of this fee, having a single server means you're paying several multiples of what an equivalent account with Linode would be.

http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cloud_hosting_products/server... " In addition to the hourly service fee of 12¢/hour per server, a $100 flat, monthly account fee will be assessed when at least one server on the account is active. The account fee is not reflected in the above pricing as it is not a per server charge but an overall account fee no matter how many servers are active on the account."

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