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Lebron James, a black man in America, spoke out on issues affecting black men in America. He did not speak out on issues in China, nor does he speak out on issues affecting the First Nations in Canada, the Native Americans in America, the Aboriginals in Australia, and neither did he protest injustices in Africa, Europe nor the Middle East. Terrible behavior indeed not shouldering every injustice in the world.
Yep, and a man should focus on discipline in his house instead of confront the injustice of the world — that’s why he beats his wife instead of confronting real problems. LeBron happily accepts Chinese money for his work to be aired in the Chinese market: focusing his criticism on the less problematic customer is exactly what I’m calling out. China pays money he wants, and will stop if he talks, so he doesn’t talk ab…
Nearly half of Americans changed sports viewing habits because of social justice
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Re: Nearly half of Americans changed sports viewing habits because of social justice
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I think the cause and effect are reversed here. People had sports as that bridge, and the country became more divided. That division has been increasing for decades. Sports came first and they weren't creating any bonding. If they had even slowed the process, they were rapidly running out of juice. The problem with "don't politicize" is that this has a thumb on the scale of the status quo. "Politicization" means that…
" That division has been increasing for decades." Only in pop culture. Almost every single material measure of integration has been improving. Wage gap, education gap, representation gap etc.. And from 1969->2001 even in pop culture things were improved. It started to heat up with Obama (I love the guy, but many didn't) and went into overdrive in the last 5 years. Watch CNN from 2005. It wasn't directly divisive, it…
And on the Twitter feed of the last President.
Re: Nearly half of Americans changed sports viewing habits because of social justice
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The world will be a better place when people are ok being wealthy without feeling the need to make every single penny possible. Being ok with cops killing unarmed minorities so you can sell more shoes shouldn't be a defensible position. Being ok with child labor and internment camps so you can make and sell more phones shouldn't be a defensible position. As an extremely minor example it seems like nearly every food c…
I think its less about making money and more about focusing on what he was actually good at. In later reflections on that line, Jordan goes on to say he never saw himself as a role model, just as a basketball player. I'd say the world will be a better place when people who are famous for X focus on their love of X and shut up about everything else about which they probably know less than the average citizen due to be…
On the one hand, its "people I disagree with should shut up".
On the other hand, its "censorship is wrong, and people should have a right to say what they want".
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This conflict shows up again and again in sports. Kaepernick was wrong to kneel during the anthem. Etc. etc. I always find it weird that as sports / entertainment comes up, people feel the need to call for censorship of celebrity voices.
Re: Nearly half of Americans changed sports viewing habits because of social justice
#34I watched sports then and watch them now. I just love to see awesome athletes who have honed their bodies and reflexes to such a crazy degree do things I could never do. The interjection of social justice issues hasn’t yet taken anything away from the joy of the game from what I’ve seen. Kneeling for the anthem, wearing armbands with messages doesn’t change any of that. If they start saying we need more diversity in…
Athletes do not get taxed on "half their income." Each bracket of income is taxed at a progressively higher rate, so the first $10k for everyone is taxed at the same 10% rate. The next $30k for everyone is taxed at the same 12% rate. The next $45k for everyone is taxed at the same 22% rate, etc. The highest bracket is 37%, and only the dollars above ~$520k are subject to that 37% rate. Even including state income taxes, only persons making more than $600k are subject to the highest theoretical rate (which is below 50%), and even then only on the dollars earned in excess of $600k.
So, for example, if Superstar BBaller earns $601k in wages for playing for the LA Hoopers, he pays $58k in taxes to CA (the mathematical total of the progressive lower-taxed brackets), plus $123 for the $1k over $600k. He pays the feds approximately $150k for the lower-taxed brackets, plus $30k on the $101k in excess of the $520k threshold for the highest-taxed bracket.
And even that example overstates the taxes he pays, since it excludes deductions, tax credits, state tax credits, etc., that would lower the actual tax paid.
Re: Nearly half of Americans changed sports viewing habits because of social justice
#35I watched sports then and watch them now. I just love to see awesome athletes who have honed their bodies and reflexes to such a crazy degree do things I could never do. The interjection of social justice issues hasn’t yet taken anything away from the joy of the game from what I’ve seen. Kneeling for the anthem, wearing armbands with messages doesn’t change any of that. If they start saying we need more diversity in…
The interjection of SJ makes the moment 'very serious and contemplative'. Like being in Church, listening to a Sermon. That's the complete opposite of sports where people spectate to literally get away from controversy, 'serious' things. For many Americans, especially men, it's their '2 hour safe space' where they can have a beer and not worry. Imagine if you're doing Yoga, and the well meaning instructor starts in a…
> It's reasonable that athlete's want to use their voice for change, and I think most people would accept that, but they way they've gone about it is wrong.
What are the acceptable ways to use one's voice for change? If that question is too broad, what is the acceptable way for an athlete on the national level to use their voice for change?
Re: Nearly half of Americans changed sports viewing habits because of social justice
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" That division has been increasing for decades." Only in pop culture. Almost every single material measure of integration has been improving. Wage gap, education gap, representation gap etc.. And from 1969->2001 even in pop culture things were improved. It started to heat up with Obama (I love the guy, but many didn't) and went into overdrive in the last 5 years. Watch CNN from 2005. It wasn't directly divisive, it…
Only in pop culture. And on the Twitter feed of the last President.
But even during Trump's presidency, African Americans had their lowest unemployment rate in history. I don't credit him with much of that directly, rather, but he did preside over an area of 'open business growth' for which that was the result.
Which is my point.
Even despite the toxic rhetoric of a public official, things on the ground can improve.
Re: Nearly half of Americans changed sports viewing habits because of social justice
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
The world will be a better place when people are ok being wealthy without feeling the need to make every single penny possible. Being ok with cops killing unarmed minorities so you can sell more shoes shouldn't be a defensible position. Being ok with child labor and internment camps so you can make and sell more phones shouldn't be a defensible position. As an extremely minor example it seems like nearly every food c…
I think its less about making money and more about focusing on what he was actually good at. In later reflections on that line, Jordan goes on to say he never saw himself as a role model, just as a basketball player. I'd say the world will be a better place when people who are famous for X focus on their love of X and shut up about everything else about which they probably know less than the average citizen due to be…
Re: Nearly half of Americans changed sports viewing habits because of social justice
#38I watched sports then and watch them now. I just love to see awesome athletes who have honed their bodies and reflexes to such a crazy degree do things I could never do. The interjection of social justice issues hasn’t yet taken anything away from the joy of the game from what I’ve seen. Kneeling for the anthem, wearing armbands with messages doesn’t change any of that. If they start saying we need more diversity in…
The interjection of SJ makes the moment 'very serious and contemplative'. Like being in Church, listening to a Sermon. That's the complete opposite of sports where people spectate to literally get away from controversy, 'serious' things. For many Americans, especially men, it's their '2 hour safe space' where they can have a beer and not worry. Imagine if you're doing Yoga, and the well meaning instructor starts in a…
Re: Nearly half of Americans changed sports viewing habits because of social justice
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think its less about making money and more about focusing on what he was actually good at. In later reflections on that line, Jordan goes on to say he never saw himself as a role model, just as a basketball player. I'd say the world will be a better place when people who are famous for X focus on their love of X and shut up about everything else about which they probably know less than the average citizen due to be…
> shut up about everything else On the one hand, its "people I disagree with should shut up". On the other hand, its "censorship is wrong, and people should have a right to say what they want". ------------- This conflict shows up again and again in sports. Kaepernick was wrong to kneel during the anthem. Etc. etc. I always find it weird that as sports / entertainment comes up, people feel the need to call for censor…
Re: Nearly half of Americans changed sports viewing habits because of social justice
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Keeping politics out of sports... That is, we do that after we do our little patriotic opening song, then we leave the politics out, right?
Throw the patriotic and military-worshipping stuff out too. It annoys me as much as the "social justice" stuff annoys me. Perhaps more. I'm in principle opposed to the patriotic and military stuff, although I'd probably make an exception if the country was actually being militarily attacked for some reason other than because of blowback for its meddling overseas. I could imagine supporting some social justice messagi…
You don't have to fully subscribe to the intrinsically-racist Black Lives Matter narrative to agree that unaccountable police are a major problem regardless of race. And IMO unaccountable police is a more fundamental issue than the newly-stoked racism.