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Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”

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Re: Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”

#351

> ”Ubiquiti had negligent logging (no access logging on databases) so it was unable to prove or disprove what they accessed” Perversely, this is exactly the logging that you want to have in place in case of a breach. You can then (factually) make the statement that ”we have no evidence any customer data was accessed.”

That works for exactly as long as the data hasn't come out. Once the data comes out... well, you've got questions to answer.

Re: Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”

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> “The breach was massive, customer data was at risk, access to customers’ devices deployed in corporations and homes around the world was at risk.” > “They were able to get cryptographic secrets for single sign-on cookies and remote access, full source code control contents, and signing keys exfiltration,” Maybe putting your network control plane in 'the cloud' isn't such a good idea after all... Edit: Just re-read…

> Maybe putting your network control plane in 'the cloud' isn't such a good idea after all... Isn't one of the major selling points of cloud-everything "How can you possibly secure your service better than BigRespectableCompany?" I know any time I bring up self-hosting E-mail or a web site or whatever, someone always comes out of the woodwork to remind me that I am not an expert in securing Internet services, and tha…

> BigRespectableCompanies

Ubiquiti really aren't in the same ballpark as AWS or Microsoft, which are the companies people use that argument for, and you can bet your ass their security is better than in most places.

Re: Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”

#353

> the attacker(s) had access to privileged credentials that were previously stored in the LastPass account of a Ubiquiti IT employee The interesting part of this story is how the employee's LastPass got popped. My guess is their local workstation was compromised, and their LastPass was either not logged out in a browser plugin, or they didn't have 2 factor auth required for each login and a keylogger got the password…

> My guess is their local workstation was compromised You mean someone was physically at the laptop/desktop and could access the OS and apps? Maybe if the employee was working remote (covid?) from, say, a cafe and left the laptop unattended when refilling coffee? Or something else? ... Hmm, could also have been eg a browser zero day that gave someone remote access to the computer? Or a dev tools supply chain attack?

It's not that complicated. The local workstation could have had a trojan or virus that installed a keylogger or screengrabber.

Re: Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”

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Was shopping for alternatives to my Ubiquiti last night. Seems like there is nothing good out there. Engenius has shit hardware and a cloud controller. Aruba has a cloud controller AND you have to pay for a license. Cisco makes you pay for a license. TP-Link is cloud-based. WTF. Does anyone have a decent WAP where I can use PoE, deploy like 5 of them and have them support roaming between APs, all managed locally? Is…

So the question for becomes: is there just not a good enthusiast market for this stuff? I have met a number of people who are "network nerds", so I'm inclined to think the market does exist. With any of the plethora of consumer devices (Linksys, Netgear, D-Link) it's a dice roll whether your gear is complete garbage or not. A lot of the time, you're coming up snake eyes. I've got some Ubiquiti gear I bought a couple…

I've been running Asus routers with Tomato firmware and other than seemingly inevitable hardware quality issues it has been smooth sailing

Re: Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”

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But rotating credentials would not hurt or help that alleged goal of hiding the truth from customers...

“force rotation of all customer credentials” = make customers change their passwords, which is a huge red flag that would draw attention to why they were forcing that.

Github just recently logged out all users because they had a bug that could leak other account data into sessions. They were very transparent about why they did that, what happened, and I for one trust them more for it.

Re: Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”

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Ruckus Unleashed is what you're looking for.

They are triple the cost of the UniFi stuff. So not really a drop in replacement.

Look on ebay for slightly older models. R710, R720 should be $200-$300. Not a replacement at scale, but the one-off purchase from ebay is fine for home use.

Re: Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”

#357
post #7

> “The breach was massive, customer data was at risk, access to customers’ devices deployed in corporations and homes around the world was at risk.” > “They were able to get cryptographic secrets for single sign-on cookies and remote access, full source code control contents, and signing keys exfiltration,” Maybe putting your network control plane in 'the cloud' isn't such a good idea after all... Edit: Just re-read…

Was shopping for alternatives to my Ubiquiti last night. Seems like there is nothing good out there. Engenius has shit hardware and a cloud controller. Aruba has a cloud controller AND you have to pay for a license. Cisco makes you pay for a license. TP-Link is cloud-based. WTF. Does anyone have a decent WAP where I can use PoE, deploy like 5 of them and have them support roaming between APs, all managed locally? Is…

maybe their different product lines are managed differently, but all my Unifi WAPs, router, and switches are managed on a local controller that i installed and maintain myself.

i recall some features being locked behind a UBNT account, but that was only reporting-type stuff IIRC

https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/360012282453-UniFi-Set...

Re: Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”

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post #7

> “The breach was massive, customer data was at risk, access to customers’ devices deployed in corporations and homes around the world was at risk.” > “They were able to get cryptographic secrets for single sign-on cookies and remote access, full source code control contents, and signing keys exfiltration,” Maybe putting your network control plane in 'the cloud' isn't such a good idea after all... Edit: Just re-read…

Was shopping for alternatives to my Ubiquiti last night. Seems like there is nothing good out there. Engenius has shit hardware and a cloud controller. Aruba has a cloud controller AND you have to pay for a license. Cisco makes you pay for a license. TP-Link is cloud-based. WTF. Does anyone have a decent WAP where I can use PoE, deploy like 5 of them and have them support roaming between APs, all managed locally? Is…

TP-Link Omada is locally controlled (through a smartphone) but you can buy the Omada Cloud to control it remotely.

It works with their small 16 port (8 PoE switch).

Re: Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”

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Now rewrite your entire comment with s/ubiquiti/sonos/g. So much wasted potential ... so much customer goodwill wasted because (apparently) no company is worth running unless it is a publicly traded unicorn.

Why is it so easy to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in tech?

It's not enough to be good, or great, every tech company wants to be a world-spanning juggernaut. and it's just not possible, let alone desirable.

Re: Whistleblower: Ubiquiti Breach “Catastrophic”

#360

> ”Ubiquiti had negligent logging (no access logging on databases) so it was unable to prove or disprove what they accessed” Perversely, this is exactly the logging that you want to have in place in case of a breach. You can then (factually) make the statement that ”we have no evidence any customer data was accessed.”

Reminds me a little bit of Adverse Event Reporting in pharma. If a drug manufacturer finds out about an adverse event (i.e. a bad reaction) to a drug, it kicks off all sorts of obligations that have the potential to be time-consuming and expensive. So pharma is the one sector you won't see with a "social media listening/analysis" department in marketing. They actively avoid tracking or learning about discussion of their products on social media.
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