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Post by CobrastanJorji »

heckerhut wrote: post #232
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #92

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It's funny how the ups and downs of evaluating a startup go: Phase 1: "Okay, it's a Real Names social network, seems probably fine." Phase 2: "Oh no, some sort of token economy. Well, maybe it--" Phase 3: "Nevermind, it said the word 'blockchain,' abandon ship, this is doomed."

Well you could’ve guessed 3 when reading 2.

No, I assumed they'd just store your "points" in a Users table in a relational database, plus a "transactions" table somewhere for history. Going with a blockchain solution is kind of crazy unless you're a blockchain company searching for a use case for your ridiculous--wait, what's this "Copyright © 2021 Block.one" bit at the bottom of their page?

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Post by colinprince »

argc wrote: post #194

As a current AWS employee, I can say I'm proud to be working for AWS (at least my organization) but incredibly embarrassed to be working for Amazon. I had written a much more scathing comment about the Amazon side of the business but I'm not sure what is allowed under hacker news's community guidelines.

let's hear it

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Post by ahepp »

freebuju wrote: post #253
starclerk wrote: post #184

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I completely agree. But it's hard, since "politics" is broad and almost everything touches it in some way. The main way I've tried to achieve this is by largely limiting what I read to: 1. Authenticated contributors, either people I know personally or hired by companies I trust (e.g. NYT). 2. Anonymous contributors with heavy moderation and filtration (e.g. Twitter, but with O(100) muted words and accounts. My feed i…

Interesting, so you've managed to create your own Internet bubble. Isn't this another example of confirmation bias? I would think it would be better to just scroll past the content you are not interested in engaging in. It certainly will be better to know of something happening, even if in brief terms, than to be completely in the dark of it.

I don't think there are any easy answers.

If you don't filter, best case scenario your SNR is going to be too low. There's also a pretty good chance that you will end up with a GIGO situation because all you hear about is whatever cable news, Cambridge Analytica, and Amazon's twitter astroturfing squad are pushing today.

If you do filter, you're correct that it opens the door to all kinds of biases.

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Post by ClumsyPilot »

barrenko wrote: post #257
throwyetanother wrote: post #200

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>So Bezos is doing the correct thing by being anti union. Unionization is messing with the free market, which never leads to good outcomes historically. Tell that to Sweden, with its 80% unionization rate and productivity (GDP per hour worked) at 97% of that of the United States. And since you said "historically" - it's not a recent change of affairs. In the 1970s Sweden's productivity (GDP per hour) was 90% of that…

Things work differently at different scales.

yes, they might work even better atthe scale of US

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Post by MarkPNeyer »

eeeeehhhhh wrote: post #152
taormina wrote: post #103

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https://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-... This is a fantastic read.

I knew this was going to be posted. I've been thinking about this post for a decade now and I can't help but feel that, although it does reflect part of reality, the Gervais Principle is overly cynical in my opinion, and those who adopt the view will have it compounded by confirmation bias because it is partially true. The things described happen at toxic organizations but the author leaves no room for honest positiv…

I agree with your analysis here, although from what I understand he argues that these phenomena have to do with working for big companies. The book “developer hegemony” makes a similar argument and argues that the “way out is to have lots of small software consulting shops.

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Post by tomcooks »

skohan wrote: post #3

I feel like authenticity of online communication is an unsolved problem. The web was supposed to be a democratizing platform: all you need to communicate with the world is an ISP and a keyboard. But if there's no way to control for authenticity, online sentiment will just be an arms race for who can pay for the best astroturfing.

Please let me have the last remaining bits of what used to be a fun wild west. Kick corporations out of the internet instead of making it corporation friendly.

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Post by SyzygistSix »

ivan888 wrote: post #84
hooande wrote: post #58

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how would you respond if people said you were treating your employees unfairly? financial worth has nothing to do with it. if he feels that charge is untrue, he should push back against it. I would not be nearly as measured in my response. no sir, I am not the one

> how would you respond if people said you were treating your employees unfairly? Hopefully anyone with that level of wealth would look into fixing the actual problem instead of trying to cover it up with fake testimony. The point is, he has the money to build a working culture where people can feel like they are treated fairly, he just chooses not to

It's not like he is the only one at Amazon making decisions. Along with Bezos, there's a whole host of bad actors at Amazon who have decided not to treat workers well.

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Post by hindsightbias »

Loughla wrote: post #158
hindsightbias wrote: post #77

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Googling for critical thinking curricula and high school district returns Henrico County (VA) on page 5 or 6. One would think if it were integrated with other studies it would be mentioned somewhere other than Edutopia and Walden adverts.

Have you ever dissected a novel in English class? Did you discuss motivations for various historical events in history? Did you talk about theory of public speaking purposes and styles? I did, in a very rural, very underfunded school district - all of those things are critical thinking. It is integrated into other studies. But there tend to not be "This lesson is critical thinking" sorts of headers on the lesson plan…

CT is ambiguously defined and complex in theory and practice. While analysis and evaluation of selected novels is intended to enlighten perspectives idk that curricula is rational or skeptical based on reading lists. Maybe an effect on bias.

It’s been awhile, but would wonder how unbiased today’s history books are. I can’t see the State of Texas board being nuanced about the Alamo.

I can see a rural district where teachers/schools have much more control over curricula, so enlightment or indoctrination is easier to influence. I dont see this scaling to large administrative/measurement bound districts. How does one test to CT outside perhaps secondary effects of STEM or AP results? It does appear that higher percentages of students are taking AP tests though.

Being educated by Jesuits, we started with Socrates/Plato. But looking at my classmates FB feeds I don’t see any evidence of sober CT skills. Skepticism is a synonym of conspiricism in today’s generations. Biases are polar bound.

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Post by yaml-ops-guy »

mattmanser wrote: post #256
eeeeehhhhh wrote: post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I knew this was going to be posted. I've been thinking about this post for a decade now and I can't help but feel that, although it does reflect part of reality, the Gervais Principle is overly cynical in my opinion, and those who adopt the view will have it compounded by confirmation bias because it is partially true. The things described happen at toxic organizations but the author leaves no room for honest positiv…

He does mention meaningful work, that's done by the clueless. But to the author it's a sidenote that he doesn't bother explaining. It's this bit where he briefly touched on it: the standard promotion/development path is primarily designed to maneuver the Clueless into position wherever they are needed

So a transmogrification of The Peter Principle but in more words?

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Post by starclerk »

freebuju wrote: post #253
starclerk wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I completely agree. But it's hard, since "politics" is broad and almost everything touches it in some way. The main way I've tried to achieve this is by largely limiting what I read to: 1. Authenticated contributors, either people I know personally or hired by companies I trust (e.g. NYT). 2. Anonymous contributors with heavy moderation and filtration (e.g. Twitter, but with O(100) muted words and accounts. My feed i…

Interesting, so you've managed to create your own Internet bubble. Isn't this another example of confirmation bias? I would think it would be better to just scroll past the content you are not interested in engaging in. It certainly will be better to know of something happening, even if in brief terms, than to be completely in the dark of it.

Totally. I'm deliberate and happy with the the bubble I've created. It's actually quite diverse in terms of authenticated sources-- the anonymous content is what's heavily filtered.

> It certainly will be better to know of something happening, even if in brief terms, than to be completely in the dark of it.

I don't think so. It's impossible to hear about everything and I feel whatever is newsworthy enough to hit the sources I read is important enough for me.

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