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Storage is now available in Supabase (YC S20)

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Re: Storage is now available in Supabase (YC S20)

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Post by kiwicopple »

avolcano wrote: post #25
kiwicopple wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hope this helps: https://github.com/supabase/supabase/tree/master/docker

I think this is a bit disingenuous to post. Your own website[1] says: > Supabase is an amalgamation of 5 open source tools (and growing). We don't have a simple way to install everything on a single server, but we will work on this as soon as we have a stable set of features. Now, it's fair to say "we don't have a simple way" is different from "we don't have a way at all," but you clearly discourage users from trying…

That's fair, to be honest those docs were written a long time ago and haven't been updated. We're releasing our CLI tomorrow, which is part of the "self hosting" story, so I'll update these docs with some detailed instructions.

Thanks for the candid feedback.

Re: Storage is now available in Supabase (YC S20)

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Post by yclurker »

harporoeder wrote: post #28
yclurker wrote: post #26

Supabase is NOT open source and it's Founders are highly unethical. Here’s why. We heavily rely both on postgres and Firebase. And when Supabase came as an “open source” Firebase alternative (also a YC company), naturally we were excited. However ever since the launch, time and again the community has kept asking for a self-hostable version to no avail. And community is requesting that since not all of Supabase is op…

I am a little confused by your description. I do not use Supabase but the source appears to be available on github and is actively updated. Are you claiming that because they do not provide clear documentation on how to self host they are not open source? Perhaps a good Samaritan could read through the repository and write some basic documentation which is enabled by virtue of being open source.

The problem is not with providing documentation.

They are not providing the missing source codes to put together a self hostable solution. Essentially they are not open source. Otherwise writing documentation is trivial by one of the community members.

Re: Storage is now available in Supabase (YC S20)

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Post by mateomorris »

yclurker wrote: post #26

Supabase is NOT open source and it's Founders are highly unethical. Here’s why. We heavily rely both on postgres and Firebase. And when Supabase came as an “open source” Firebase alternative (also a YC company), naturally we were excited. However ever since the launch, time and again the community has kept asking for a self-hostable version to no avail. And community is requesting that since not all of Supabase is op…

If you really care about open source software, as you seem to, you should know that attitudes and statements like this are just about the worst thing for it. Self-hosting isn’t the only benefit or purpose of OSS. It’s fair to point out that it isn’t easy to self-host, but consider doing it without being poisonous.

Re: Storage is now available in Supabase (YC S20)

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Post by inian »

yclurker wrote: post #26

Supabase is NOT open source and it's Founders are highly unethical. Here’s why. We heavily rely both on postgres and Firebase. And when Supabase came as an “open source” Firebase alternative (also a YC company), naturally we were excited. However ever since the launch, time and again the community has kept asking for a self-hostable version to no avail. And community is requesting that since not all of Supabase is op…

I am not sure what you mean by the watered-down docker-compose setup since it is the same one we use internally. Have you tried running the setup - https://github.com/supabase/supabase/tree/master/docker?

Is your complaint that the dashboard is not open source?

Re: Storage is now available in Supabase (YC S20)

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Post by smalltalks »

yclurker wrote: post #26

Supabase is NOT open source and it's Founders are highly unethical. Here’s why. We heavily rely both on postgres and Firebase. And when Supabase came as an “open source” Firebase alternative (also a YC company), naturally we were excited. However ever since the launch, time and again the community has kept asking for a self-hostable version to no avail. And community is requesting that since not all of Supabase is op…

Everything said above is true.

Supabase started Open Source , their GitHub repo had tutorials on how to host the platform yourself with a bit of documentation. Basically from what I understood they've been growing SO FAST ( they raise 10+$M IIRC ) they had to make a choice between "Growth" or "Integrity".

Obviously it's a YC company , the market they're going after is massive , they chose growth over integrity and doing things "that don't scale" but that have "traction".

I agree with the author , the founders should come clear about the marketing and the status of Self Hosting and Open Source... Supabase is no where near Open Source as it promised when it was published on HN few months ago... It's getting closer to a "MuleSoft/Serverless Inc" type of thing that lets you connect your own providers...

Don't get me wrong , I'm saying this because I'm an Enterprise Architect in one of the largest Bank in Europe , I desperately need an Open Source Firebase Clone to move 300+ Developers and Business Analyst into a Cloud First / Product Focus model away from legacy Cobol Enterprise App, Supabase seemed the ideal candidate.

Unfortunately it has been a huge deception.

Re: Storage is now available in Supabase (YC S20)

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Post by superasn »

endisneigh wrote: post #29
yclurker wrote: post #26

Supabase is NOT open source and it's Founders are highly unethical. Here’s why. We heavily rely both on postgres and Firebase. And when Supabase came as an “open source” Firebase alternative (also a YC company), naturally we were excited. However ever since the launch, time and again the community has kept asking for a self-hostable version to no avail. And community is requesting that since not all of Supabase is op…

Is open source synonymous with self hosted? I can think of some open source projects are prohibitively difficult to host yourself. I can also think of closed source projects that are easy to self host. In any case I feel that your fervor is unjustified.

Yes this is misplaced anger. I remember long time ago I tried compiling PhantomJs.exe (it's now defunct but it was a alternative to puppeteer). It was insanely hard to compile the latest release for Windows. I had to actually hire and pay someone to do it for me.

Yet I could not be more thankful to the creator of PhantomJs for the work he put into making it. The source code was all there but I wasn't able to do it. But the person I hired did eventually. I am only thankful to the people who make anything open-source and are kind enough to share the code with the world to see and learn.

Re: Storage is now available in Supabase (YC S20)

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Post by kiwicopple »

smalltalks wrote: post #35
yclurker wrote: post #26

Supabase is NOT open source and it's Founders are highly unethical. Here’s why. We heavily rely both on postgres and Firebase. And when Supabase came as an “open source” Firebase alternative (also a YC company), naturally we were excited. However ever since the launch, time and again the community has kept asking for a self-hostable version to no avail. And community is requesting that since not all of Supabase is op…

Everything said above is true. Supabase started Open Source , their GitHub repo had tutorials on how to host the platform yourself with a bit of documentation. Basically from what I understood they've been growing SO FAST ( they raise 10+$M IIRC ) they had to make a choice between "Growth" or "Integrity". Obviously it's a YC company , the market they're going after is massive , they chose growth over integrity and do…

Every component of Supabase is MIT, Apache 2, or Postgres licensed - apart from the dashboard

The code to self host it is in our main repo: https://github.com/supabase/supabase/tree/master/docker

I do think we could have better/cleared docs, which we can fix up tomorrow.

Re investment: we raised 6M, and we are under no pressure to trade our integrity for growth. We have open-source-friendly and patient investors (Mozilla, Coatue, YC), and a nice group of developers: https://supabase.io/blog/2021/03/25/angels-of-supabase

Re: Storage is now available in Supabase (YC S20)

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Post by zapita »

yclurker wrote: post #26

Supabase is NOT open source and it's Founders are highly unethical. Here’s why. We heavily rely both on postgres and Firebase. And when Supabase came as an “open source” Firebase alternative (also a YC company), naturally we were excited. However ever since the launch, time and again the community has kept asking for a self-hostable version to no avail. And community is requesting that since not all of Supabase is op…

Supabase is definitely open-source.

To the founders of supabase: don’t let people like this deter you. Their misplaced anger and self-righteousness says more about them than it says about you. If your software is good, we will use it. If it’s not, we won’t. There’s no need for poisonous behavior either way.

Re: Storage is now available in Supabase (YC S20)

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Post by [deleted] »

zapita wrote: post #38
yclurker wrote: post #26

Supabase is NOT open source and it's Founders are highly unethical. Here’s why. We heavily rely both on postgres and Firebase. And when Supabase came as an “open source” Firebase alternative (also a YC company), naturally we were excited. However ever since the launch, time and again the community has kept asking for a self-hostable version to no avail. And community is requesting that since not all of Supabase is op…

Supabase is definitely open-source. To the founders of supabase: don’t let people like this deter you. Their misplaced anger and self-righteousness says more about them than it says about you. If your software is good, we will use it. If it’s not, we won’t. There’s no need for poisonous behavior either way.

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Re: Storage is now available in Supabase (YC S20)

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Post by vorpalhex »

yclurker wrote: post #32
harporoeder wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am a little confused by your description. I do not use Supabase but the source appears to be available on github and is actively updated. Are you claiming that because they do not provide clear documentation on how to self host they are not open source? Perhaps a good Samaritan could read through the repository and write some basic documentation which is enabled by virtue of being open source.

The problem is not with providing documentation. They are not providing the missing source codes to put together a self hostable solution. Essentially they are not open source. Otherwise writing documentation is trivial by one of the community members.

What is missing aside from the dashboard?
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