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Man Built a $188M Fortune Investing in Stocks Then Donated It to Charity

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Re: Man Built a $188M Fortune Investing in Stocks Then Donated It to Charity

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Here’s a guy who saved his money and invested it and made a huge fortune from an inherited fortune, all so he could give it away. The response - “ugh what an a-hole, who inherited his wealth”. I’m so sick of hacker news. I mean if you were defending someone who squandered their opportunities but the bias was in the system, I applaud that defense. We should be very aware that some people are screwed and oppressed. But…

> The response - “ugh what an a-hole, who inherited his wealth”.

I don’t see any comments calling the donor a pejorative. The other comments are accurately pointing out the article is wrong about how he obtained his wealth.

Re: Man Built a $188M Fortune Investing in Stocks Then Donated It to Charity

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Here’s a guy who saved his money and invested it and made a huge fortune from an inherited fortune, all so he could give it away. The response - “ugh what an a-hole, who inherited his wealth”. I’m so sick of hacker news. I mean if you were defending someone who squandered their opportunities but the bias was in the system, I applaud that defense. We should be very aware that some people are screwed and oppressed. But…

The religion analogy is great, because that's what this is.

Wealth, privilege is now original sin for a lot of people. There is no real way to get out of it. See here. Even giving it away means you stay guilty. Never mind the guy didn't even spend his money on anything. Just having it is sin.

I think the only way you can get rid of this original sin is by donating to climate change efforts or BLM or something similar. But I'm pretty sure even then you will be thought of as the inheritor of priviledge.

And this, by the way, is how bolshevism is born. Like actually.

Re: Man Built a $188M Fortune Investing in Stocks Then Donated It to Charity

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> "Wealth is accumulated through habits" is a great story to tell people but it seems very often to be complete BS. I see a lot of these. One of my favorite examples is https://www.businessinsider.com/how-ebony-horton-paid-off-22... . "How one 31-year-old paid off $220,000 in student loans in 3 years" is the exciting title. You have to get to paragraph #7 to learn "work at your parent's charity" is one of the techniq…

$20M net worth at 27 while being financially independent at 17 years old here. AMA.

Sure, I'll bite. You said AMA, after all. So please tell us your story briefly.

Re: Man Built a $188M Fortune Investing in Stocks Then Donated It to Charity

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From the article: Most millionaires opt for stealth wealth. Their friends don’t know, their coworkers don’t know, their extended family doesn’t know. In a few cases, not even their children know! Wealth is accumulated through habits; at least in a free society like ours. At the moment, something like 1 out of 25 households falls into the millionaire category, most of it self-made. From the comments: Your right in Jac…

> very often This can just be replaced with "always". You can be lucky or you can have inherited wealth.

This is the most ridiculously untrue comment, and it's not only untrue its the worst possible attitude for the individual to have.

You prevent yourself from attempting anything to change your circumstances, while rolling around in self pity and building resentment towards successful people.

Too much of this destroys societies, and having it personally yourself destroys your life.

Re: Man Built a $188M Fortune Investing in Stocks Then Donated It to Charity

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From the article: Most millionaires opt for stealth wealth. Their friends don’t know, their coworkers don’t know, their extended family doesn’t know. In a few cases, not even their children know! Wealth is accumulated through habits; at least in a free society like ours. At the moment, something like 1 out of 25 households falls into the millionaire category, most of it self-made. From the comments: Your right in Jac…

> At the moment, something like 1 out of 25 households falls into the millionaire category, most of it self-made. 4% of households is off the mark. It's presently closer to 7%-10% depending on the source [1]. 8% of American adults (~19-20 million people) are millionaires [2]. It's not what it used to be, given the median sale price of a home is now around $350,000. Demographically the mean white household in the US i…

There’s two kinds of millionaires. The technically millionaires on paper, and those who have access to a million dollars without altering their lifestyle (or sacrificing their lifestyle, i.e. selling their house and moving somewhere cheaper). The latter is a more interesting statistic, in my opinion.

Re: Man Built a $188M Fortune Investing in Stocks Then Donated It to Charity

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I mean, it takes money to make money. It's a lot easier to get a hundred million dollars when you start out with 1 million to put in the stock market.

One cannot transform 1 million into 100 millions without having 1 million in the first case (unless some debt leverage is used, but that is besides the point here). Right. However, I fail to see how that removes any value (or makes the task look easy) regarding Mc Donald's perspective. For that one guy who transformed 1 million into 100 millions, how many actually lost most of their initial million (in stock trading)…

If you had a million you could also get a loan with interest less than "risk free" assets. E.g. The stock market makes 7-10% but you can get a loan for 1-3%. So 1.5x your returns then become 12-16%.

Perhaps you can invest in lower risk dividend stocks which will pay out your interest + a little and 3x. If we assume those stocks only make 4% but also pay out 3% then you are looking at 16% returns. Moreover when those dividends get raised you are doing even better.

Leverage can go a long way if used well.

Re: Man Built a $188M Fortune Investing in Stocks Then Donated It to Charity

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From the article: Most millionaires opt for stealth wealth. Their friends don’t know, their coworkers don’t know, their extended family doesn’t know. In a few cases, not even their children know! Wealth is accumulated through habits; at least in a free society like ours. At the moment, something like 1 out of 25 households falls into the millionaire category, most of it self-made. From the comments: Your right in Jac…

> "Wealth is accumulated through habits" is a great story to tell people but it seems very often to be complete BS. I see a lot of these. One of my favorite examples is https://www.businessinsider.com/how-ebony-horton-paid-off-22... . "How one 31-year-old paid off $220,000 in student loans in 3 years" is the exciting title. You have to get to paragraph #7 to learn "work at your parent's charity" is one of the techniq…

I've seen this example going around because it's such an egregious example of attributing to hard work what was essentially just gifted, but I think "wealth is accumulated through habits" is not wrong. It's really just a statement about compound interest, that if you live frugally and invest you'll end up with tons of money.

The statement is better characterized as something like "wealth is the product of habits and opportunity", where the only measurement we can quantify is a person's wealth, and our society is struggling to reconcile whether unwealthy people simply have poor habits (their fault) or poor opportunities (society's fault).

Re: Man Built a $188M Fortune Investing in Stocks Then Donated It to Charity

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post #88

Here’s a guy who saved his money and invested it and made a huge fortune from an inherited fortune, all so he could give it away. The response - “ugh what an a-hole, who inherited his wealth”. I’m so sick of hacker news. I mean if you were defending someone who squandered their opportunities but the bias was in the system, I applaud that defense. We should be very aware that some people are screwed and oppressed. But…

I've had similar complaints about HN and the Baptists, but I never would have connected them had it not been for this comment.

Re: Man Built a $188M Fortune Investing in Stocks Then Donated It to Charity

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From the article: Most millionaires opt for stealth wealth. Their friends don’t know, their coworkers don’t know, their extended family doesn’t know. In a few cases, not even their children know! Wealth is accumulated through habits; at least in a free society like ours. At the moment, something like 1 out of 25 households falls into the millionaire category, most of it self-made. From the comments: Your right in Jac…

Compound interest is a thing. If you are fortunate to have a job that allows you to save money, and you put that money in the S&P 500 it will double every 7-10 years. His wealth was inherited, but if you start to invest money in your 20s, and you invest every month at dont touch it, you will most likely get rich if you live to be a senior.

Yes, if you are fortunate enough to have a job that allows you to save money--that's less than half the working population of the US, where the median bank account value is under $6k. Someone with a bank account that low isn't investing $2000/year starting at 20 years old to achieve a $1M (pre-tax) portfolio at age 67.

That's the whole reason people object to these "just start saving and compound returns will make you rich" myths. The fact is that only people near the right-edge or beyond of the curve in terms of income will ever "invest and be rich" in a given lifetime. It takes a combination of extreme luck and risk-taking to achieve wealth in this society.

Re: Man Built a $188M Fortune Investing in Stocks Then Donated It to Charity

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Not $188 million rich.

why is that not possible - warren buffet didnt inherit money and became a billionaire. it's possible to get very rich on compound interest.

Buffet’s dad was a federal congressman with his own investment firm, and grandparents were owners of a grocery store. Not saying he didn’t work for any of it or didn’t deserve it, but you’re not going to be Buffett by socking away 20% of your pay in a retirement account (you might be nominally if US gov keeps printing money, but not in real terms).

He certainly is an outlier in terms of intelligence and work ethic, but I would assume connections from his dad helped, as well as the family being able to afford sending their kid to good schools and NYC for further networking and education, all the way from Nebraska in the 1950s.

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