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Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by alimbada »

croutonwagon wrote: post #259
karlshea wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Id go with a ruckus. the r700 unleashed and/or r500 unleashed This is the problem with Ubiquiti, and maybe why they feel they can advertise in their UI and let their quality slip: a new r710 lists for $1295. That's almost four times as much as a UAP-AC-HD. On sale for $810 it's still over twice as much. Some of the Ubiquiti WiFi 6 stuff can be had for $100-150. Like, yeah, I'm sure Ruckus is way better, but I'd hop…

You can get the r710 on Amazon for $430. R510 are even cheaper around 230 or so. These aren’t the latest iterations of their hardware. Ruckus doesn’t require a contract to get updates firmware/software. Theses are around the same prices as a uap-ac-hd. Regardless of list price. They can be had as cheap as ubiquiti and their software/firmware is not only better but doesn’t have all the telemetry crap built in.

> They can be had as cheap as ubiquiti

I'm assuming you're talking of used hardware as this isn't the case, at least in the UK.

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Post by Terretta »

flyinghamster wrote: post #198

Just updated my controller VM (for two access points) to 6.1.71. Good thing it's on a ZFS volume, and that I made sure to snapshot it before updating, because I just rolled it back and dropped a pin in /etc/apt. Ye gods. Video ads in my management interface? Are you KIDDING? This is ridiculous. Sigh. Everything is turning to ashes. Every. Fucking. Vendor. has decided that it's perfectly OK to spam you and hoover up y…

> ”And no, don't say ‘Apple’ since I don't trust them any more than Microsoft or Google.”

Apple.

Because only one firm in your list has billboards focusing on privacy (keeping your data on your device), code enforcing that, and policy and code requiring developer full transparency in the consumer app store.

It’s an interesting exercise to ask:

If you don’t trust Apple any more than Google, what would it take for you to trust that a high end consumer hardware company would be less data privacy exploitation motivated than a purely ad revenue driven company?

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Post by TristanBall »

karmicthreat wrote: post #98

For people needing alternatives. I've had good luck with foritgate. Some of their APs are dogs, but the fortios in general has been decent.

I'd been wondering about this.. Ubiquiti's wan and firwalling is super weak, especially for multi-site, when compared to some of the sd-wan products out there.

What's wrong with the ap's? Have you used the switches? How much of their kit can managed via a single console?

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Post by dvfjsdhgfv »

furyg3 wrote: post #222
trylfthsk wrote: post #85

I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

My mother got a new laptop, and at some point I got remote access to help her get a few things set up (password manager/ad-blocker/backups/etc). I was really amazed at what her Facebook feed looks like. Actual Facebook advertisements for literal scams. 'Michelle Obama's investment tips' for some bitcoin platform. 'Patagonia Outlet' with items at 25% of the cost, at domains like patagonia-outlet.shjss72828.sub.domain.…

> This is just not ok.

"Not OK" is forgetting to clean up your table after the meal. What these scammers are doing is simply fraud and Facebook should be liable as they enable it.

I remember when I set up my first FB ad (maybe 10 years ago?) it took a few days because some of them were manually reviewed. Fast forward 10 years and they accept any fraudster who pays them a few bucks. Just low scum, that's all.

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Post by Terretta »

fy20 wrote: post #194
gorgoiler wrote: post #184

The three stages of an engineer’s relationship with Ubiquiti: 1/ Their APs are so cool! Check out this web interface! I can manage an entire fleet of both of these, all from my home office! 2/ Aha, the APs run Linux and I can ssh to them and upload settings — even cooler! 3/ Er, you know what else runs Linux, has a pair of wired and wireless NICs, and can be managed remotely with plain text files and ssh — literally…

Are there any SBCs which have built in APs that can handle transfers in the hundreds of megabits range?

Good question.

When you have gigabit FIOS backstopped by multi-hundred mbps LTE, several thousand square feet of concrete and metal construction, and actively use (and feel) hundreds of megabits in any given room, even in commercially packaged offerings there are not a lot of consumer or prosumer options.

Of the two that I’ve found: (a) eero Pro (not base), and (b) UDM Pro + Nano HD APs, it comes down to something like iPhone vs. Pixel: how much twiddling do you want to do for entertainment value?

For what it’s worth, I find better sustained up/down WiFi speeds (>600 mbps vs. 450 mbps) through eero Pro, but better sustained up/down wired speeds (>900 mbps vs. >800 mbps) and support for obscure legacy IoT through Ubiquiti UniFi®.

In locations not needing more than one AP, I find monster all-in-one gaming WiFi routers (e.g. Netgear, TP-Link) beat both of them.

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Post by dralley »

bigiain wrote: post #177
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having less exposure to advertising, given that I watch less advertising-interrupted television than ever and have had a pi-hole running for a good couple of years, when I am exposed to advertising I'm reminded of how incredibly bottom-feeding it is. I've said it before: Advertising is a psychological attack on human weakness. > I find it hard to separate the fraudsters from the engineers that enable them Paraphrasin…

“The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads.” –Jeff Hammerbacher

https://youtu.be/xRL2vVAa47I&t=13m20s

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Post by unionpivo »

kmlx wrote: post #232
pseudalopex wrote: post #205

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Google Analytics at least.[1] [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26629518

GA is used across the web...

> GA is used across the web

And that's it's biggest problem.

If only few sites used it, it wouldn't be that big of a deal

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Post by EveYoung »

noahtallen wrote: post #185
andremedeiros wrote: post #55

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How is pegging and selling the successor to what I have not making ad revenue? The difference is that they’re not selling pixels for money, they’re trading pixels for sales.

The main difference in my opinion is that typical advertising is a lot more privacy invasive and malicious. Tons of cross-site tracking, ads of dubious quality, getting 3 ads per 5 minutes of YouTube, etc. I’m not frustrated when I get an email or dismissible banner ad from a company regarding a new product. It’s possibly interesting to me, and easily dismissible if not. Sure, technically, this is advertising. But th…

Even if they only advertise their own products, they will probably become interested in conversion rates and customer segmentation at some point. Or they want to advertise on other sites as well. One way to do this, would be to include trackers from ad-networks, such as Merkle M1, in the admin dashboard.

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Post by ucosty »

gorgoiler wrote: post #184

The three stages of an engineer’s relationship with Ubiquiti: 1/ Their APs are so cool! Check out this web interface! I can manage an entire fleet of both of these, all from my home office! 2/ Aha, the APs run Linux and I can ssh to them and upload settings — even cooler! 3/ Er, you know what else runs Linux, has a pair of wired and wireless NICs, and can be managed remotely with plain text files and ssh — literally…

What $20 SBCs on the market have multiple real network interfaces? I'd love to pick up a few.

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Post by croutonwagon »

alimbada wrote: post #281
croutonwagon wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get the r710 on Amazon for $430. R510 are even cheaper around 230 or so. These aren’t the latest iterations of their hardware. Ruckus doesn’t require a contract to get updates firmware/software. Theses are around the same prices as a uap-ac-hd. Regardless of list price. They can be had as cheap as ubiquiti and their software/firmware is not only better but doesn’t have all the telemetry crap built in.

> They can be had as cheap as ubiquiti I'm assuming you're talking of used hardware as this isn't the case, at least in the UK.

No it is still new. Just not the latest line of production gear (Which would be the R750). Im not going to post direct links because i assume that's a no-no.

Ruckus refreshes their gear fairly frequently and the overstock can be had at a steep discount. Those not needing to do huge, high density deployments in things like auditoriums, stadiums, classrooms and the like but are just looking for something for their home can get a really solid piece of gear (imho better than ubnt) at a steep discount.

Its not really the same as even grey market Cisco stuff.

Like i said, i stuck with ubnt because of some specific things, including the fact that I could re-use mounting holes/measurements and could upgrade in an hour vs rebuilding entirely.

https://imgur.com/a/a4LLnqH

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