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Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by jstsch »

flemhans wrote: post #182
millstone wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you say more? What happens if you try?

We bought their four-hardrive NVR for our security cams - same thing. You have to login with a Cloud login to access the web interface. The unit still sits unused in our office rack. The previous NVR allowed local logins.

Luckily in response to this thread [1] they recently announced that local access will return: https://community.ui.com/questions/UniFi-Protect-Mobile-App-...

[1] https://community.ui.com/questions/A-Request-for-Local-Accou...

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by mijoharas »

Sorry to highjack this thread looking for a product recommendation, but I've been running the same old netgear router with dd-wrt on it for about 8 years and am thinking of an upgrade.

I had been considering ubiquiti, but the stuff in this thread (not just the ads, mostly the "stuff doesn't work" posts) has made me reconsider.

Every time I look for a router nowadays, everything looks like a hedgehog it seems[0]. Has anyone got a recommendation for a solid, high performance home router to put dd-wrt or similar onto? (also, would people recommend openwrt or something instead? I've not really looked at alternatives since I set this up).

I tend to trust flashing something open source onto it better than whatever crap the manufacturer has decided to put onto it.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by bradfa »

mijoharas wrote: post #252

Sorry to highjack this thread looking for a product recommendation, but I've been running the same old netgear router with dd-wrt on it for about 8 years and am thinking of an upgrade. I had been considering ubiquiti, but the stuff in this thread (not just the ads, mostly the "stuff doesn't work" posts) has made me reconsider. Every time I look for a router nowadays, everything looks like a hedgehog it seems[0]. Has…

If you want to "build your own" and don't mind some hands-on fun, I strongly suggest looking at using a PC Engines APU2 board and using the Linux distribution of your choice on it (and yes, OpenWRT works fine on them).

https://www.pcengines.ch/apu2.htm

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by jasdine817 »

mijoharas wrote: post #252

Sorry to highjack this thread looking for a product recommendation, but I've been running the same old netgear router with dd-wrt on it for about 8 years and am thinking of an upgrade. I had been considering ubiquiti, but the stuff in this thread (not just the ads, mostly the "stuff doesn't work" posts) has made me reconsider. Every time I look for a router nowadays, everything looks like a hedgehog it seems[0]. Has…

For home office/SMBs routers you can't really beat Draytek boxes. I've had ones last 9+ years and they receive regular updates for 5+ years and are extremely solid. They have devices that have wireless radios in too but I tend to buy a used Ruckus WAP and set that up in addition because the coverage on those beats most things out there.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by dspillett »

If this is calling out, even to just their own servers for information about just their own products, even if only when an admin is actively using the UI and we can lock that account down, and there is no way to completely disable it, we will have to replace all the kit we have of theirs and never buy more. As well as offending our idea of security it simply won't pass the security audits we have to perform for our clients.

And for a "to completely disable it", blocking at the firewall level is not sufficient. Anything trying to call out will fail us on such audits.

Holding software/firmware versions back to avoid the feature won't wash either. Unless there is a security related reason to hold back an update beyond a reasonable "not jamming new code into kit the office relies on in case it breaks things" testing/resting period, then holding back on infrastructure updates is itself a security audit fail.

[FYI: getting Ubiquiti kit in the first place was not our call but it has worked well enough - it might be our call to plan its replacement with something else, and if I shall name this activity Project Ubiquiti-quity]

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by exoque »

piokoch wrote: post #195
trylfthsk wrote: post #85

I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

This is not that simple, unfortunately. Advertising in itself is not bad. Why informing about a good product is something wrong? How we would have Tesla or iPhones, etc. without advertising. Nobody would know about all of those. But something went wrong at some point. Similarly with options - options were a great way farmers could offload risk to the products buyers, who, in exchange could get better prices. But when…

Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that Tesla actually never used ads. Then again with the PR they generate there's just no need to.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by Causality1 »

trylfthsk wrote: post #85

I think it's a common sentiment here, but I'm turning into a more extreme anti-advertising zealot every day. Even the large ad networks show paid content that violates what I would consider widespread ethical norms - presenting everything from hyperbolic claims to straight fraud to people with little repercussion. I'm reminded of a poignant example in television, where episodes of Jeopardy! are intertwined with their…

Advertising is legalized fraud. Someone gets taken advantage of and we say "Oh you fool, you should've known those claims were bullshit."

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by croutonwagon »

karlshea wrote: post #136
croutonwagon wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

for wireless AP's? It really depends. I actually just went with Wave2 stuff. In the end i bought some UAP-AC-HD's because 1. I am familiar/setup to handle their quirks and had 99% of the setup already done. 2. I really wanted an AP with Dual 5Ghz AND dual 2.4 Ghz dedicated antennas for some very specific applications (multiple rtsp streams over wifi+client plex wifi streams+client traffic. With the first two largely…

> Id go with a ruckus. the r700 unleashed and/or r500 unleashed This is the problem with Ubiquiti, and maybe why they feel they can advertise in their UI and let their quality slip: a new r710 lists for $1295. That's almost four times as much as a UAP-AC-HD. On sale for $810 it's still over twice as much. Some of the Ubiquiti WiFi 6 stuff can be had for $100-150. Like, yeah, I'm sure Ruckus is way better, but I'd hop…

You can get the r710 on Amazon for $430. R510 are even cheaper around 230 or so. These aren’t the latest iterations of their hardware. Ruckus doesn’t require a contract to get updates firmware/software. Theses are around the same prices as a uap-ac-hd.

Regardless of list price. They can be had as cheap as ubiquiti and their software/firmware is not only better but doesn’t have all the telemetry crap built in.

Re: Ubiquiti starts serving ads in their management interface

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Post by kieckerjan »

bigiain wrote: post #177
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having less exposure to advertising, given that I watch less advertising-interrupted television than ever and have had a pi-hole running for a good couple of years, when I am exposed to advertising I'm reminded of how incredibly bottom-feeding it is. I've said it before: Advertising is a psychological attack on human weakness. > I find it hard to separate the fraudsters from the engineers that enable them Paraphrasin…

“The best minds of my generation are thinking about how to make people click ads.” –Jeff Hammerbacher

Some of these best minds are probably reading this right now, and keeping awfully quiet. :-)
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